• Wanderer
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    6 months ago

    Someone really needs to get a hold of the migrant problem in Europe.

    Realistically the far right seem to be the only ones willing to do anything. Everyone else wants to bury thr head in the sand and act like their are no issues.

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      6 months ago

      All the downvotes here show there’s really an issue on the left in staunchly denying there’s any issue with unlimited illegal immigration. To be clear, like most of Lemmy, I am very much on the left side of the political spectrum myself but I live in a city which now houses a majority “non-native” (whatever you want to call it) population and it very much stresses social cohesion. Until we find an answer for very rapid integration of migrant populations I don’t see how this is sustainable.

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        6 months ago

        Yes I’m very left wing. High taxes, high government spending.

        But I always want to live in my country that feels like my country.

        The more I have travelled (in the west and outside) the more I realised that the west way of life, my way of life is what I want to preserve. I’ve lived in my own country and felt like an outsider because the city (at least downtown) is predominantly Islamic.

        There is nothing wrong with saying I want my country to look out for our citizens first, then our friends then everyone else.

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      6 months ago

      The bigger issue, I think is how you shut down immigration and still deal with the demographic collapse that will be happening over the coming decades.

      If the countries in the EU don’t want their finances to collapse paying out pensions with a shrinking tax base, they have to do something. There’s what the people want and what the state needs and they are in direct opposition.

      I personally think they should more or less open up the borders to working age people from whatever countries they feel are desirable sources of immigrants.

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        6 months ago

        I think ultimately it comes down to democracy. People should vote on it.

        Immigration has never been popular especially from certain countries or areas.

        Give people the vote. Lower immigrations but taxes go up and pensions go down.

        Japan manages the demographic collapse why can’t others? They are doing great. Also if immigration goes down, house prices go down people have more discretionary so they will spend more and more taxes will be raised. Also people will live in bigger houses with more money the natives will have more children.

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      6 months ago

      Right wingers have done fuck all to curb immigration. They just say they will and then don’t lift a finger. It’s all empty platitudes. Virtue signalling.

      The companies that fund conservative political parties don’t want fewer customers and definitely don’t want to stop an influx of cheap labour.

      It’s just populists offering an easy solution.

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        6 months ago

        Yes the right fucked it. But the far right, I think they have different opinions altogether.