If the owner of the standard notes will now be a proton, doesn’t that contradict this principle? I have a proton email account but I don’t want it linked to my standard notes account. I don’t strongly trust companies that offer packaged services like google or Microsoft. I prefer to have one service from one company. I am afraid that now I will have to change where I save my notes. What do you guys think about this?

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    There’s a lot of metadata Proton passes around, and two of their oldest flagship products (email and VPN) require you to put a lot of trust in one company. For email, you trust them to encrypt them without snooping. For VPN, you trust them to not collect logs about where you’re going.

    And in the former case, they were compelled to give up at least a little data in the not-so-distant past.

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        I bring up “the email incident” because it’s a reminder that Proton may record stuff that’s not encrypted, which includes the vast majority of emails.

        And it’s not to say that you wouldn’t trust it with one individual service, but whether it’s wise to trust it with so many services at once, from a security, privacy, and even monetary perspective.

        Not every concern is FUD, and I think you’ll start seeing diminishing returns every time you repeat it.

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        10 months ago

        Had the activist been using proton vpn to create and access their email, Proton would not have had the info they were forced to give up.

        What? If protonmail collects any metadata, why do you assume protonVPN doesn’t?