FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX 2023

Circuit stats
First Grand Prix 1952
Number of laps 72
Lap record 1:11.097 Lewis Hamilton (2021)
2022 winner Max Verstappen

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  • narc0tic_bird
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    1 year ago

    Wet tires will probably never be used (unless enforced), even if the conditions are clearly full wet.

    Teams are so greedy with staying on the inters so that even if some drivers pit for full wets, the race will inevitably be red flagged because someone staying on the inters will crash, which then makes you look silly for pitting for full wets a lap or two earlier.

    Granted that they reinstated the positions of the previous lap so Perez is actually fine, but let Zhou crash one lap later and Red Bull would’ve been punished with Perez for doing the right thing for safety and to try and keep the race going.

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      1 year ago

      I call the full wets “red flag tyres” cos we never see them on a car during a race for more than a lap without a red flag

      • Microw
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        The teams say that the wet tires are unusable. Pirelli would need to rework the formula for this compound for the teams to be happy with it

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          1 year ago

          I think it’s more about the visibility rather than the tyre compound.

          The ground effect cars suck all the water up and spray it into the air, making it dangerous for anyone outside the first few positions

    • Nighed@sffa.community
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      1 year ago

      I think everyone agrees with that, apparently even perelli have called it the safety car tire…

      I think the best suggestion was to make a much better tire between the two if they can - that reduced the amount of tires they are lugging around too.

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        1 year ago

        Make the full wet better or the inter worse or add a third option, but something needs to change. Visibility concerns have been a legitimate issue in past races, but that definitely wasn’t the case today.

    • Apprehensive@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Full Wets should be mandated for all teams in these conditions for a set # of laps. That would eliminate the teams gamesmanship, increase safety and avoid the embarrassing red flags. F1 is so poorly run.