• hrosts
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    1 year ago

    You’re not beating the allegations, you’re treating this the same way a nationalist would. If you don’t see the irrelevance of historical anecdotes here, well, I guess that explains why you’re a tankie.

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      Motherfucker your example of tankies being facist was some random Infrared supporter (Which we dunk on all the time) what do you mean anecdotes lol.

      Allegations is all they are gonna be cause you got no evidence

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        Haz, Maupin, Dore and all their sphere are fascist. One guy literally went through being an “anti-imperialist” tankie to going to Tucker Carlson and talking about how wokeness is destroying West or something. Even in comments here I see tankies gladly buying and spreading Russian bullshit about Ukrainians being Nazis. Or how when I recently mentioned Russia making genocidal policies against trans people, a lot of people from a tankie sub began whataboutisming me about that. The fact that you totally ignored my larger point (tankie community producing fascists), which you apparently know about and “dunk all the time” on. The fact that you tried to deflect from that by bringing up 50-years-old historical anecdotes which are irrelevant to this particular context. It’s in the same vein as when Israel tries to deflect from accusation of fascism and apartheid by bringing up antisemitism and Holocaust. Of course, what Israel does is much worse than being a breeding ground for online fascists, but the mechanism of deflection here is similar. Don’t try to strawman me on this. No matter which honorable or victimized identity you use, this remains a deflection.

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            I’ve actually been extremely consistent with my usage of the term throughout this conversation. The people I’m talking to keep using it for everyone under the sun, that’s true. From a member of a third-world communist party 50 years ago to themselves to Joseph Stalin. My focus is currently on the online English-speaking community/ies of the last 5-10 years who would fit the term

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              Because its not relevant you dumbass

              Tankie refers to any ML these days stop trying to Cope by saying you were only talking about english speaking online world.

              all your examples are americans

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                english speaking online world

                Who else would we talk about in a Lemmy conversation about people on Lemmy supporting Russia? I’ve been telling you the Vietnamese don’t matter in this context from the very beginning.

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                  This whole thing started when you said thst Tankies engage in facist apologia.

                  I stated that was projection and gave histortical examples

                  Once you saw that your Narrative was crumbling you started to save face by moving the goal post

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                    You know if you’ve misunderstood my initial comment you can just drop the posturing and say so