Let’s try a thought experiment. Lets pretend I appointed you into a position of power where you can decide any or every aspect of how the economy would behave until you die. How would that economy look like? What does the ideal workforce look like in your vision? (You start with how the world is currently set up, greedy people still exist, billionaires still exist, conservatives still exist, etc)
Let’s try a thought experiment. Lets pretend I appointed you into a position of power where you can decide any or every aspect of how the economy would behave until you die.
Lol, I don’t foresee how this is a valuable thought experiment? For one, it would force me into the position of some kind of global dictator. Secondly I’m not an economist, nor do I have aspirations for political leadership.
There is not a single person in the world who has the knowledge and experience to create an equitable economy by themselves. And it’s a little telling that you believe that to be even theoretically possible. The entire point of leftist ideology is that the workers get to collectively choose their own destiny.
That being said, just because I’m not helicopter pilot, doesn’t mean I don’t know that youre not supposed fly them into mountains. My point is that capitalism isn’t even theoretically sustainable, and that we need to find an alternative as we fully transition from a post industrial economy to a service economy.
A major aspect of that change will have to be the extension of workers rights and benefits across international lines. The problem with your idea of unionization is that it’s tied to nationalism. American unions are built to protect only Americans, which pits workers of the world against each other, just the way corporations like it.
If we fail to extend unions outside our borders than corporations will continue to exploit the weakest and most powerless workers across the globe, using unprotected labour as ammunition bto further destabilize workers rights in America.
Why else do you think workers pay has consistently failed to match increases in profitability and production for the last 30 years?According to your view of capitalism, aren’t the most productive workers supposed to be rewarded for increasing profits, isn’t that the inherent motivation for workers to work harder?
Wow, you are terrible at this. Not only do you want to criticize anything I say but you refuse to respond to a hypothetical where you have the ability to make the best case scenario. You dont want to make changes you just want to be ‘correct’. Im done with this conversation. What a useless waste of time.
Wow, you are terrible at this. Not only do you want to criticize anything I say
I’m not criticizing everything you say, I’m just explaining my understanding of some of the economic mechanisms I have problems with.
you refuse to respond to a hypothetical where you have the ability to make the best case scenario.
That’s a false dichotomy though… I don’t have to have come up with a hypothetical theory that adequately replaces an entire political and economic reality, just to criticize it.
That’s like if I were to complain about my piece of shit car, and having someone say you can’t criticize your car unless you can design and manufacture a better replacement.
I don’t possess the knowledge or time to accurately replace an economic system through authoritarian actions as you suggested in your hypothetical. That doesn’t mean there’s not a more sustainable economic model out there that would lead to less wealth inequality. It just means that a person who went to medical school for orthopedics and rehabilitation prob isn’t going to be part of the team that figures it out.
You dont want to make changes you just want to be ‘correct’.
Lol, dude. What do you mean “don’t want to make changes”? I’m not a senator, I don’t have the ability to force change on anyone. Literally the only thing I can do to enact any form of change is to create honest and meaningful discord with people like yourself.
Do I think I’m correct, yes, of course. Am I being honest when I challenge your views, yes.
And I think it’s kinda ridiculous to adopt a “higher than thou” posture towards me not participating in your impossible hypothetical, when you haven’t addressed any of my questions or rebuttals.
Im done with this conversation. What a useless waste of time.
I mean, what was your goal here? What would have made this discord more useful? Did you honestly expect me to just change my viewpoint when you haven’t actually engaged with any of my concerns?
Let’s try a thought experiment. Lets pretend I appointed you into a position of power where you can decide any or every aspect of how the economy would behave until you die. How would that economy look like? What does the ideal workforce look like in your vision? (You start with how the world is currently set up, greedy people still exist, billionaires still exist, conservatives still exist, etc)
Lol, I don’t foresee how this is a valuable thought experiment? For one, it would force me into the position of some kind of global dictator. Secondly I’m not an economist, nor do I have aspirations for political leadership.
There is not a single person in the world who has the knowledge and experience to create an equitable economy by themselves. And it’s a little telling that you believe that to be even theoretically possible. The entire point of leftist ideology is that the workers get to collectively choose their own destiny.
That being said, just because I’m not helicopter pilot, doesn’t mean I don’t know that youre not supposed fly them into mountains. My point is that capitalism isn’t even theoretically sustainable, and that we need to find an alternative as we fully transition from a post industrial economy to a service economy.
A major aspect of that change will have to be the extension of workers rights and benefits across international lines. The problem with your idea of unionization is that it’s tied to nationalism. American unions are built to protect only Americans, which pits workers of the world against each other, just the way corporations like it.
If we fail to extend unions outside our borders than corporations will continue to exploit the weakest and most powerless workers across the globe, using unprotected labour as ammunition bto further destabilize workers rights in America.
Why else do you think workers pay has consistently failed to match increases in profitability and production for the last 30 years?According to your view of capitalism, aren’t the most productive workers supposed to be rewarded for increasing profits, isn’t that the inherent motivation for workers to work harder?
Wow, you are terrible at this. Not only do you want to criticize anything I say but you refuse to respond to a hypothetical where you have the ability to make the best case scenario. You dont want to make changes you just want to be ‘correct’. Im done with this conversation. What a useless waste of time.
I’m not criticizing everything you say, I’m just explaining my understanding of some of the economic mechanisms I have problems with.
That’s a false dichotomy though… I don’t have to have come up with a hypothetical theory that adequately replaces an entire political and economic reality, just to criticize it.
That’s like if I were to complain about my piece of shit car, and having someone say you can’t criticize your car unless you can design and manufacture a better replacement.
I don’t possess the knowledge or time to accurately replace an economic system through authoritarian actions as you suggested in your hypothetical. That doesn’t mean there’s not a more sustainable economic model out there that would lead to less wealth inequality. It just means that a person who went to medical school for orthopedics and rehabilitation prob isn’t going to be part of the team that figures it out.
Lol, dude. What do you mean “don’t want to make changes”? I’m not a senator, I don’t have the ability to force change on anyone. Literally the only thing I can do to enact any form of change is to create honest and meaningful discord with people like yourself.
Do I think I’m correct, yes, of course. Am I being honest when I challenge your views, yes.
And I think it’s kinda ridiculous to adopt a “higher than thou” posture towards me not participating in your impossible hypothetical, when you haven’t addressed any of my questions or rebuttals.
I mean, what was your goal here? What would have made this discord more useful? Did you honestly expect me to just change my viewpoint when you haven’t actually engaged with any of my concerns?