UNICEF has declared Gaza to be the “world’s most dangerous place to be a child.”

United States diplomats once again held up a vote on a watered-down United Nations Security Council resolution on Wednesday aimed at bringing more aid and relief to civilians in the besieged Gaza Strip as reports of starvation, mass killings, and other war crimes allegedly committed by the Israeli military continue to pile up.

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    9 months ago

    Like, I know that, because you’re a supporter of ethnostates you’re already arguing from such a bad faith position this almost isn’t worth it, but, even being the genius you are, certainly you would admit that the IDF would never allow Hamas to have actual established military bases even when not at war, right? You do get that? As soon as Hamas said “this is a military training facility” the Israelis would blow it up.

    You’re acting like there’s some way for Hamas to carry out conventional warfare against a vastly more well-resourced occupying force.

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      Palestine is an ethnostate you absolute moron, Hamas has a stated goal of wiping out Israel.

      Hamas is not supposed to be carrying out any warfare. Gaza should not have a military or weapons at all. They wouldn’t if it wasn’t for Iran supplying them in order to fight a proxy war against Israel.

      This whole thing is geopolitical in nature. Which is why westerm governments are still making the decisions they are when the citizens are crying about civilians dying. It’s way above the heads of the average citizen. War sucks, but losing this war would be worse than supporting Israel in their fight.

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        “The people we’re genociding shouldn’t even have weapons” isn’t quite as sympathetic an opinion as you think it is.

        Maybe someday we can get rid of ethnostates propped up by superpowers and Palestine can go back to being a diverse and plural land like it was for thousands of years before all the racists got shipped in.

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          They being genocided BECAUSE they’re attacking. Israel tried building walls and protections first, then hamas just started shooting rockets over them, then isreal built the iron dome system, and hamas continued attacking.

          Maybe someday we can get rid of ethnostates propped up by superpowers and Palestine can go back to being a diverse and plural land like it was for thousands of years before all the racists got shipped in.

          Are you fucking stupid? People have been killing each other over ethnicity and religion for literally all of human history. Including in the land now known as Israel. The ottoman empire literally had two sets of laws for jewish and islamic people, and intentionally made the jewish second class citizens. There were also multiple attacks and even massacres of jewish citizens during that period.

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            The ottoman empire literally had two sets of laws for jewish and islamic people, and intentionally made the jewish second class citizens.

            The Ottomans being Israel in reverse, again, isn’t the ammo you think it is. The great thing is that society has progressed in the last 100 years and we now recognize apartheid and ethnostates are bad, and we can do better.

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              You’re using “we” here like “we” is everyone, but it isn’t.

              A good chunk of the world population lives in an obvious ethnostate, something close to an ethnostate, or wants to be an ethnostate. Japan, China, India, Australia, Most of Northern and Southern Europe…

              There is no common agreement that ethnostates are bad and that we can do better. Go ask someone in Tokyo, Oslo, or Rome.

              Hell, go ask a good chunk of America if they’d like to see less immigrants and more white Christians…

              So no, society hasn’t up and agreed that ethnostates are bad in principle. You’re talking out your ass.

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                If my ancestors lived in Norway 3000 years ago can I get a free trip to Norway and Norwegian citizenship? Will they give me a Saami person’s farm?