- cross-posted to:
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- cross-posted to:
- apple@lemmy.ml
- tech@pawb.social
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I would love to see a fork of Apollo for Lemmy, call it Artemis. 😀
Seriously. They’ve released the backend code, why not release the frontend too? Open-source is definitely viable, if the developer just lets the project rot, they’ll get nothing from it, but if they just slap the GPL on it and work with the community on a fork, then they would end up leading a nice open-source project. I’d love to see Lemmy gaining a bunch of users too; that’s definitely be nice.
How about we as a community create a repository and maintain it?
The developer would need to cooperate because the code that makes the actual app is currently closed-source.
If they release it under a FOSS license then the community can step in and help maintain the codebase.
Any reason for that to be closed sourced at the moment?
It’s definitely a shame that reddit is making these changes. The fall of reddit is going to have pretty negative affect for a lot of people.
I’m no fan of corpo platforms—I’d love more widespread adoption of open protocols and software—but I don’t want _users_ to get hurt by the loss.
The decline of Reddit is a great shame. But the model of social media companies needing to IPO and make profit always hurts users in the long run. When Reddit do IPO more decisions will be made that make the experience worse for users simply because the interests of the platform owners will no longer be aligned with the interests of the users. We can’t know how things will work out but at least the fediverse model is new and is theoretically more sustainable.
My initial suggestion for the IPO was for Reddit users to buy off the majority of the shares 😄
But given the chaos right now, I don’t think this will work out anymore.
The more I dive the worse it smells. Willing to bet this situation would be less worse if they just came out and said “Alright guys sorry but we’re banning 3rd party apps”, instead they make more and more lies
I suspect the reason they did that is that it might leave them open to anti-trust action. But if the price is just too high? Oh well, guess them’s the breaks.
Is it a Reddit client, or is it an out of patent drug?
I’ve been a Reddit user for many years. It was a great run but I’m moving here. For now I’m missing quit a few favorite communities but that should improve with time.
I’m hopeful that will be the case too, I’m just worried about the learning curve (even if it’s slight) to get into lemmy
Not to mention data loss and the need for a threshold of active users to keep things running.
Also not get overrun by certain elements which have co opted other social media platforms in recent history…
If there is even small scale organized move to Lemmy with the best mods and content posters, there won’t be much to worry about. I’d be more worried about moving too fast and destroying the servers/network effect accelerating with the influx of meme spam. You see what happened to just about every large subreddit becoming a low quality content cesspool perpetuated by the hive mind. I love Reddit but it’s hard to watch communities need to migrate to niche or private subreddits.
Right now I think everyone agrees there is no rea Reddit substitute, so Lemmy is the main landing spot. So long as we don’t get bored here conversing with a smaller population, Reddit doesn’t do a complete about face, and Lenny’s servers don’t crash and burn - I think time will help work things out.
First comment in the Fediverse. Fuck Reddit.
fuck reddit
W comment.
Instead of closing down it would be cool for 3rd party apps to switch to Lemmy but I know it would be a lot of work.
The Apollo dev mentioned something like this but said he is burned out and had no interest in starting a competing thing.
He said that about making a Reddit competitor not about using lemmy API
My Reddit life started with Apollo 8 years ago, and it will end on the 30th. Thank you
nooo :(
another reason to stop using reddit
Obligatory “f-ck Spez” and their silly little AI training thing
Their what now? What did I miss?
I really, really hope a good amount of developers can convert their apps to work with the Lemmy API. Would be a shame to see all the wonderful work across the 3rd party apps go the way of the dodo :(
Yep, and this is what caused me to sign up for Lemmy! Hello!
You forgot my boi Infinity
Not sure what QuantumBadger is going to do with RedReader but I’d follow suit tbh :(
I literally just signed up for lemmy after reading this post on reddit. I’m ready for reddit to crash. Decentralized apps seem like the way to go. It seems super short-sighted on Reddit’s part to be basically extorting all these 3rd party apps that are super popular.
Unfortunately, I doubt Reddit would crash. I don’t think these online protests have much sway anymore. Twitter’s definitely didn’t. And ironically, Lemmy might crash a couple times with going over user capacity…
Either way, we ought to work to avoid it. Chop chop, people, content, we need content! Lifeblood of link aggregators is people having topics.
The thing about social media sites is that they never truly and permanently die, they just slowly languish into irrelevance.
MySpace still exists for example, as does AOL, Tumblr, and yes, DIGG… However to say they are shells of their former selves would be an understatement.
It took 5 years after Facebook opened up to the general punic for MySpace to fall to the point of having to sell out to another company. We are still in the early days when it comes to seeing if Musk will effectively kill Twitter.
If reddit starts to die we won’t notice for quite some time. We will at most see waves of people leaving months or years apart and then one day reddit will just find itself basically forgotten about.
I think the thought of major subs going private out of protest has them at least a little worried. Worried enough to try to backtrack on the changes that will affect moderators to “give them more time”, but only if they don’t participate in the blackout.
Sounds a lot like threatening at this point (and who knows if they’ll follow through with their promises if even one sub goes dark), which ironically is the same thing they accused the Apollo dev of doing to the Reddit team.
Worried enough to try to backtrack on the changes that will affect moderators to “give them more time”, but only if they don’t participate in the blackout.
How would that even work though? Say Sub A participates in the blackout while Sub B doesn’t, if they backtrack and don’t start charging for API access how would they reward Sub B while excluding Sub A? Also this all depends on 3rd party apps continuing to operate to even allow these mods to use them for moderating purposes so if Apollo and Sync shut down, there’s nothing reddit can do to change or delay their closure since they aren’t controlled by reddit. Sounds like a bunch of desperate, empty promises on reddit’s part.
Oh I absolutely agree that it sounds like empty, desperate promises on their behalf at this point. I think it’s safe to say (given the OP) that Reddit has ruined every ounce of credibility and good-will they may have had as a result of their lies and backtracking. I wouldn’t trust them one bit with their attempts at garnering more good-will at this point.
why did you share the old reddit site
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I’m always amazed when I see someone using new reddit or the official app. I just don’t understand how, it’s soooo bad
For me, Lemmy is quality over quantity since I’ll interact with like-minded people - aka the users that care enough to move away from reddit.
It’s not all about numbers.
There is a thing, twitter has already had an okay and quite usable official app alongside third party apps. Reddit official app is buggy as hell and not very intuitive. I think too Reddit will survive, but I think the quality of content is going to go down since many power users were using third party apps.
But for Reddit officials that wouldn’t be a problem since they don’t care for quality but for engagement.
Twitter’s definitely didn’t.
I don’t know… 50% of their top advertisers have left, and their advertising income is down 60%. I’m no longer there, so I can’t speak to overall user engagement, but with their revenue cratering, I’m not sure how long it is destined for this world.
Even if Twitter and Reddit don’t completely crash like Digg did, making them “just one among several” will be a good thing in the long run. They’ll actually have competition for a change.
Welcome! It’s a bit rough around the edges here but the devs are making changes every day and the community is better than I thought.
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Honestly the rough parts remind me of the good old days of the internet. I’m no gatekeeper but I’m happy when sites are smaller, focused, and slow to grow.
Exactly! For the first 5 seconds, I was pissed that I couldn’t send a reply with Ctrl+Enter, but it just reminded me of the good old days of being part of and building a community from scratch and I love it!
Have been a satisfied user since 2021. It’s short but sweet. Gonna move on to Lemmy. I can’t wait for a stable release of Mlem!
My wife uses reddit, and couldn’t be bothered to use anything other than the official app. Sadly she’s in the majority with this. I’d say somewhere between 5-20% of mobile only/heavy reddit users will end up over here, and that’s heavily dependent on whether or not the subreddits that they like come over here too. I see far too much content for the moment just linking back to reddit
The question is: Are users like your wife submitting popular content, or are they mostly consumers? If nobody submits good content, there is nothing to consume.
The stats assume all users contribute the same amount to the community.
Like you’ve said, if a large number of the people who submit content are the ones using the third party apps then the loss of those users has a large larger impact.
The same thing applies to moderators who use third party apps (among other tools that may not be affected) because their mod tools are better than the official app.
This. Reddit and their stans keep trotting out this, what, 2% or so of “super users” as a “Who fucking cares about 2% let em cry” but -
Who tf do you think is providing the content and doing the moderation that keeps it falling apart? I learned in all this there’s a big viewership who don’t even have accounts, they’re not suddenly going to sign up and start posting and interacting out the wazoo. People who just comment and chat after work aren’t going to take up moderation duties (especially since all the stuff that made it manageable is bust.)
It can float without that 2% for a while, but it’s going to become outdated quick. You’ll lose that cultural edge of typing “Reddit” after internet searches, cause it stops working because there’s no longer ALWAYS posts about every little thing. The people bickering and providing entertainment are gone, they were all on RIF or the other app, so people stop popcorn scrolling.
I wonder if it’ll go Twitter and just start catering to the fascists cause it’s the only market left.
A lot of Reddit mods rely on third party apps though, as the modding tools in the native app are garbage. I foresee another exodus of users as the modding quality declines and subs start turning into dumpster fires of spam
this is the key. it doesnt really matter how many regular users rely on 3rd party apps, when the percentage of mods that use them is considerably higher. (In fact I would guess if 5% of regular users use 3rd party apps, probably 5% of mods use official reddit app)
and without the free help that reddit have relied on for years, the place falls apart.
