What is Nostr? Nostr is decentralized messaging system with the most prevalent current use case being a censorship resistant twitter. It currently has custodial bitcoin lighting payments built in.
Can Monero be added instead of bitcoin? Yes, Bitcoin lightning is completely separate from the message protocol. You absolutely can have a client for Monero tipping, that can communicate with non-monero clients. The bitcoiners would just not see the monero part.
Why care about Nostr? It’s a “self-custodial twitter”. Nostr lets you own your audience like Monero lets you own your money. This is important as governments crack down on free speech, and would allow for an open forum for monero to continue discussion during a ban. To say “why care about Nostr?” is like saying “Why care about free speech?”
Are Nostr DMs private? They can be if you use certain clients. This video goes over Nostr privacy & some basics: https://video.simplifiedprivacy.com/nostrprivacy/
What attempts have been made so far to put Monero on Nostr? There’s been multiple funding attempts including one with Cake Wallet, but it’s not gained that much attention. Mostly due to Monero people being so insane angry about the Bitcoin Maxis that are on Nostr, however we need to separate the technology from the people talking on that technology. To say “Forget Nostr because Bitcoin Maxis use it” is like saying “Forget Monero because criminals use it”
Why is Nostr better than mastodon? Mastodon ties identity to DNS server IP addresses. IP addresses are tied to physical locations which the basis for government control via violence. While as Nostr ties identity to public keys beyond tyranny’s grasp. Also on Mastodon, groups have de-federation lists, which is coordinated censorship.
What do you want from me? I’m not asking for money, the Nostr Monero client will get funded if there’s active community on it. I’m asking for you to make a Nostr account and have fun. Here’s a list of some XMR heads on the platform you can check out:
SimplifiedPrivacy.com npub14slk4lshtylkrqg9z0dvng09gn58h88frvnax7uga3v0h25szj4qzjt5d6
monero directory npub1r27775s4thzj5gdz4j0dr8jygvtldnur2qxlzw0muu7z57k83c4qtsyqx6
Alexander, founder of monero merchants website npub1p47we20qqrn3rcnrhs22ygt2kayk320fq046y998zscq4hk7tgsqjn2qfl
juraj, speaker at MoneroTopia live and anarcho captialist npub1m2mvvpjugwdehtaskrcl7ksvdqnnhnjur9v6g9v266nss504q7mqvlr8p9
anon shop, buy amazon w XMR npub1zhjs54sc9t08gn53kq2tfzlf595w76t2venpjx22spezd2mgy3kq8wje8u
libre network, XMR & self-host videos npub127sumzfyvrxjm7v222y226ext4mh0xad79pq7lx8jgnn3vxsffsqz8uezu
graphene OS devs npub1gd3h5vg6zhcuy5a46crh32m4gjkx8xugu95wwgj2jqx55sfgxxpst7cn8c
rino, Monero Muti-sig wallets npub1s2s6jkakqnv3ja3cjt7wp3zyte7c7ngz2nv5u6ex8kpctccdvhkqvuzzkd
pluja, owner of KYCnot.me npub1jh4qu2g5e49syrwh293q8q90xeklvdx47pnj5vyca2tkljed08us0ctj6k
Agree! Nostr is a neutral tool and the protocol itself has nothing to do with Bitcoin. Monero community should embrace and utilize it.
Seems like NIP 24, 59, and 101 will remedy the main problems plaguing Nostr DMs (prevent metadata leaks and implement forward secrecy). Very cool.
- https://github.com/vitorpamplona/nips/blob/sealed-dms/24.md
- https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/fd914c600fd590e6188534cd7555116da7855503/59.md
- https://github.com/water783/nips/blob/nip101/101.md
Link to 0xChat site and their github:
Useful account for finding other Monero users on Nostr “Monero Directory”: npub1r27775s4thzj5gdz4j0dr8jygvtldnur2qxlzw0muu7z57k83c4qtsyqx6
Bounty “Nostr client for Monero” : https://bounties.monero.social/posts/94/10-000m-nostr-client-for-monero
Thanks for links
Wow, that’s huge! Can we re-use an existing wallet?
I’m not sure I follow your question. The XMR nostr client is not yet finished, but once it is, I would assume likely any wallet could be used
>Mostly due to Monero people being so insane angry about the Bitcoin Maxis that are on Nostr
>Mostly due to Bitcoin maxis being so insane
Here. Fixed it for you.
lol thanks
Happy to see this. I really wanted to like nostr, but for a long time all anyone would talk about was bitcoin/zaps. It got tiresome and boring real quick. I don’t want to have to use a bitcoin wallet just so that I can explore a new social economy idiom.
I feel like better XMR integration (and other coins, I guess), will help expand the whole micropayment/paid relay idea into something (hopefully) more fleshed out.
