Since when is everyone in the middle east “brown”. Depending on where in the middle east you are you can find a lot of white passing people. If Jesus existed then he would have been born in the levant. Most people there (not exactly everyone however) are white passing. Here is a school in Lebanon for reference
I don’t completely disagree with you about not everyone being brown, but comparing a photo of modern people to those 2000+ years ago is disingenuous. A lot has happened to the gene pool since, not to mention living conditions and skin protection have improved dramatically.
People just don’t realize the actual history when they comment on stuff like this.
Like most people tend to disbelieve when they see redhead and fair skinned Lybian Bernbers that they represent an indigenous African population from pre-history (though technically there’s evidence they came down from Europe during the tail end of the ice age).
In fact, Ramses II’s forensic report from when they shipped his body to France for examination reported he had red hair and fair skin like a Lybian Berber (which is particularly interesting given the Greek story of Danaus, Lybian brother to the Pharoh who had 50 sons, given Ramses II also had 48-50 recorded sons).
The Mediterranean was much more of a giant melting pot than most people realize. Heck, it was more of a melting pot than most scholars realized given some of the surprises just in the past two years regarding genetic export from North Africa across much of the Mediterranean as opposed to the previous view of mostly import to North Africa from the Phonecians.
I’d recommend most people set aside their preconceptions, because relying on them will almost certainly lead to misinformed positions.
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Dammit, I am so autistic that I cannot resist the urge to start a long, in-depth discussion about the historicity of Jesus, but I’m way too stoned to be capable of doing it.
yeah, I’ve seen enough documentaries to know that the person at least historically has existed and there are proofs. The whole craziness/allucination is a conplete different topic.
And there’s enough different religions and places in the world where other people have received knowledge/teachings from a shinny thing in the sky.
It’s the next day and it’s on.
Two thousand years ago, was there an itinerant apocalyptic preacher in the area of modern-day Israel named Yeshua? Probably. There were lots of itinerant apocalyptic preachers at the time.
Are the stories in the New Testament about the character Jesus “true?” Even ignoring the fact that the stories themselves are often contradictory, most certainly not.
There’s a “Jesus Protagonist” of the Bible, and probably a “Real Yeshua.” If the former is in any way based on the latter, it’s very loosely. The two are separate enough to be considered different. Kind of like how Abraham Lincoln is a Real Person, and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter is a Protagonist Character.
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Most historians agree that Jesus did exist and was a real person. Even if his miracles etc didn’t happen.
Even if his miracles etc didn’t happen.
You don’t say?!
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Just a side piece to the discussion: many of the surviving paints of Christ are biased by the author towards appearing more like the people of the area, in addition to symbolism of the era. Christ Pantocrator of St. Catherine’s Monastery is one of the oldest depictions of Christ and deviates from the modern European style.
You posted the picture so you must definitely know why the painter made the left eye look so weird
I’m so proud of this place that there’s not a single comment in here for a mod to even consider looking at.
Idk man I see something else in this picture entirely
Jesus was black tho
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