Welcome to Ask Burggit, wanted to get it off the ground and make an initial post, and I was kind of curious to see what people would answer.
How did you hear about Burggit?
Saw it on that Lemmy servers list stating you guys accept loli/shota content before it was taken down. Instant signup.
I searched for loli/shota communities on lemmynsfw.com to see if they existed there, because didn’t specify if they allow that type of content, and I was curious if they did. I noticed the only two communities that popped up in the search both led here. I clicked apprehensively, because the type of places that allow loli/shota can be a real mixed bag lol.
I was very pleasantly surprised to immediately see the pinned post “Welcome to Burggit! We’re not what you think we are!”. Good sign! Then I saw y’all are explicitly trying not to be like Voat or Kiwifarms, and that’s an even better sign!
I don’t even like lolisho content. It’s just an important ethical issue to me that fictional content that hurts no one should not be treated the same as actual CSAM. And that people who like said content shouldn’t immediately be assumed to be pedophiles. And that pedophiles not be immediately assumed to be abusers/molesters/evil monsters. It’s an issue I’ve accidentally become passionate about. I’m likely to meet people with this same mindset here. So I joined!
Burggit also got a genuine chuckle out of me when I read the DMCA policy on the sidebar. The bluntness is hilarious.
I have to admit I hate the logo for this instance tho lmaoI have to say I 100% agree with you.
I’m not even into loli/shota. Milf content is my thing. But I’m very dedicated to the idea of truth. And the truth is that loli/shota content is way overblown.
If evidence ever comes out that it does harm children then I’ll charge against it, but so far it has as much evidence for that as the video games cause violence thing. And actually a good amount of evidence supporting the opposite. It helps reduce the amount of actual harm by providing an outlet. An outlet that harms no one.
Free speech is another thing I passionately care for. Without it we may as well stick our heads in the sand whenever someone we disagree with comes along, which seems to be the case with a lot of the reddit migrants.
We as a society or people never progress or learn by cutting off communication and discussion, but instead by throwing ideas and beliefs into a gladiatorial ring of scrutiny where the fallacies and lies get shredded to reveal the underlying truth.
As the quote goes “If we collapsed as a civilization, our gods, our beliefs would all disappear and change, but physics and mathematics would be rediscovered and would be the same.” - My butchering of a quote I don’t remember the origin.
The DMCA thing made me actually laugh, lol.
I’m glad the pinned post relaxed your worries! Looks like it’s doing its job! Happy to have you aboard!~ I’m also glad you like the sidebar DMCA thing, I wrote that, and I was… a little sassy with it, I’ll admit, but it amused me, so I kept it. xD
We also have the same mindset when it comes to loli/shota/cub as well as pedophiles not automatically being abusers/evil people. I too have accidentally become passionate about this topic. Kinda nice meeting someone else who is similar.
Ooh, I how echo that sentiment! Tbh the “pedos aren’t automatically evil” thing has become a litmus test of open-mindedness/friendship material for me. If somebody passes that test they instantly gain my respect, because the type of person that can think beyond their own reactive disgust to a topic and end up defending the most hated people in our society simply because it’s the right thing to do, is the type of person I want in my life lol.
I’m curious though, how did you accidentally become passionate about this topic? (You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.)
I have always been into shota like content, specifically because I like the short male being dominated by the large female. I was ridiculed for this, as well as finding characters who were “underage” (I can’t confirm I never did end up carbon dating the paper 😝). It ended up being a topic I would discuss a lot with people, some changed their minds, loosened their opinion or saw where I was coming from. I found a lot of people just were arguing based entirely on that reactive disgust, like you mentioned. I think that’s kinda how I ended up falling into it.
Pretty much this. Though I tend to be more into the giantess thing. Shota is kind of a turnoff for me but size difference is 👌
FYI, lemmy.burger.rodeo one is an old domain that I’ve set to redirect to the new one. We had no idea that this instance was going to gain traction and once we saw people signing up left and right we decided to switch domains to one that sounded better and had far less chance of being arbitrarily revoked (GoDaddy owns the TLD for .rodeo)
Pretty much the sentiment from over here: I started looking through all the other popular instances and saw weird-looking Codes of Conduct, and kept going down until I found an instance whose Code of Conduct actually made sense to me. This would be the one.
I don’t personally have a lot of the specific interests in the headline (NSFW and all that), but having a core identity around the concept of “there’s no such thing as a banned idea, just don’t harass people” is big to me.
I’m glad our policy on free expression resonated with you. It’s refreshing to see others who align with this philosophy of ours.
This outrage post. Knew I’d found the one.
Fun fact: This individual used to be on Burggit and seemed to start spreading lies after we told them not to troll/actively cause problems with other instances. I wonder if there was a correlation there. 🤔
Happy it seemed to work as free advertisement, lol. Welcome to Burggit, hope you enjoy your stay!
It definitely did. Thanks for creating and defending a place that embraces freedom of expression. Glad to meet you!
I’m happy we can provide that sort of place for you and others! Wonderful meeting you as well! If you ever need anything, or just want to chat, feel free to give me a ring! :D
I found this place on the Lemmy front page list of instances. Like some others have mentioned I’m not here specifically for the type of hentai allowed but I’m against morality policing, especially for fictional content. I think this place will be vilified but as long as you stick by your policies you should see a decent community grow here.
Thank you! That’s the plan, we will not abandon our policies! We are dead set on giving people a place to express themselves and their ideas all ideas freely, so long as they do not participate in illegal activities or things like harassment of groups or individuals.
Saw a comment saying ban buggit.moe because eww loli. Instantly hit the signup button.
Best form of advertisement we could ever hope for.
Saw it blocked on beehaw and wondered why since I didn’t see any bigotted shit
Jesus that list ballooned fast. Was only like 6 instances (mostly the tankies/nazis) just last week lol.
They are literally blocking single user’s self-hosted instances for whatever reason lol.
I’m guessing that’s to stop them from becoming spam nodes maybe? I’m betting it goes whitelist only later on, part of the reason why I started looking around a little harder after landing there last week lol. Figured they’d start to enter a sort of walled garden system once the more trolly people figure out how to just spin up instance after instance and keep coming in to say hi everywhere.
Yeah, I’m going to be leaving as well though. I’m not a fan of the pedo shit.
You do you mah dude, definitely not for everyone.
beehaw is apparently going with the hardcore whitelist-only hugbox model.
hopefully people can migrate the useful communities out before the casualties become annoying to deal with.
I searched for “loli” on https://join-lemmy.org/instances and found your instance.
Going the extra mile for cunny. Respect.
Honestly the same. Most other instances don’t have a description or anything to stand out in that list. This instance has a fun name and a description stating what it is. I prefer a smaller instance with loose moderation over a bigger instance with strict moderation. Loli is also a huge bonus!
Someone suggested it on r/RedditAlternatives and then someone else said it was loli friendly.
I was looking for an instance to join for porn on https://join-lemmy.org/instances and saw you were lolisho and cub friendly
Me too. The logo caught my eye and it was the only one talking about NSFW, and loli to boot! I haven’t seen any other instance talk about the little l issue. I think most just assume the users know it’s not allowed.
Based loli/shota/cub enjoyer. I knew that’d help us stand out :3
My reasons for picking this as my home aren’t because it’s loli friendly, but also because it is. I’m tired of people getting mad about others opinions and thoughts. I don’t particularly like certain content advertised as welcome here, but that’s the point. I’ll never call for a ban on people having their own places to share their thoughts. I don’t have to like what you say to defend your right to say it, and this instance seems to share this stance. Standing up for unpopular speech is how I found this place. People need to chill and let others exist to share their ideas, good and bad, so people can make up their own damn minds on who they are or aren’t.
Don’t be a dick goes so many ways, including the stripping away of voices from those that others may not like. So here I am. Happy to be here.
Agreed 100% it should not be the job of a corporation, platform or otherwise to decide what you can/cannot see. To decide what you can’/cannot say. To decide who you can/cannot be or who you can/cannot associate with. People should be allowed to think for themselves, make their own decisions about what and who they want to associate with and participate in.
Very glad you found us and we’re happy to have you here. Hope you enjoy your stay!
Exactly. If I dislike something or someone, there’s this magical little button I can push to make it disappear from my screen. I don’t need someone else to push that button for me, so thank you thank you thank you for maintaining sanity in an insane world.
We’re happy we can provide you with a platform that allows you to express yourself in the way you choose to! Instead of being forced to use the ones who make those choices for you.
Amen. Enjoy your stay!
For a different kind of answer: Someone made a post on lemmy ml calling all of you pedos and demanding defederation. I saw that it just meant “Loli allowed” and put it in the back of my mind. Other comments there also dunked on the OP, including one of the admins.
But then I saw this was the home of touhou porn…
I first heard about Burggit when I was browsing kbin.social and saw someone mention it as one of the NSFW-friendly instances they knew of.
I saw that this was one of the first communities to be defederated by beehaw.org, so I clicked on it expecting some nazi shithole or something and was surprised to find it was a perfectly normal looking community. Additionally, as someone who loves Touhou music, I was excited to see some touhou related subreddits like Cirno were here so I joined. While I personally don’t enjoy nsfw art all that much (other than for the memes) and I dislike lolicon content, I treat the acceptance of all types of art as a good benchmark for whether a community truly cares about free speech and am very glad to see that it is not forbidden.
Most of my use of reddit was on FOSS and linux related subreddits so I’ll probably still have to join another instance since a lot of them are currently getting bigger on lemmy.ml/beehaw, but i’m glad to be here too for the anime/doujin/nsfw stuff and I hope to see it grow. It will be amazing if this can grow while respecting free speech but also not turn into an extremist-filled site like Voat did.
That leads me to ask, why do so many instances defederate this community in particular? For instance, lemmy.one as of now lists this as the only blocked community! Why??!! I’m guessing maybe people see that it’s loli friendly and assume it’s a place full of actual pedos without actually looking at the content of the site to see that it’s not.
I really hope that other instances will begin to accept this community. But there will probably be some major shifts in the lemmy world over the next few weeks due to the lemmy.ml shenanigans so who knows what will happen.
We do not aim to be another Voat/Kiwifarms/Gab, to learn more about that, check out this post here: https://burggit.moe/post/5280 We will definitely step in if needed to prevent things going in that direction.
As for why people block us. Lemmy.ml is heavy communist instance, you can not say anything even semi-negative about China, North Korea, or other communist countries over there without an immediate ban. So, we were bound to be defederated from them.
Other instances probably saw we are loli friendly and immediately assumed the worst. A large swath of people think that loli and IRL CSAM/CSEM are essentially the same thing and do the exact same damage, which is, frankly, retarded. << That could be another reason why other instances block us, we have no interest in moderating slurs/offending language so long as people are not directly harassing individuals or groups of individuals directly. This could explain Beehaw’s defederating us, since they are very much as “safe space” instance. Users can’t even make their own communities on there without the higher ups facilitating it.
Hopefully this answers your questions. We’re happy to have you here, and we hope to see you along for the ride as we continue to grow! Enjoy the ride.
A large swath of people think that loli and IRL CSAM/CSEM are essentially the same thing
Doesn’t help that some countries have outlawed lolis, treating them the same as CSAM which I assume would make owners of instances in those jurisdictions hit the defederate button asap to avoid having nuclear material on their hard drive.
Thank you! Seems like we agree. I’m excited to see what this place will become
Found it on the main sites list, saw it was hentai friendly <3
