• dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Most people, including leftists, are meat eaters.

      Did you assume he was a lefty because he used a word with more than 4 syllables?

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        1 year ago

        I disagree with the comment on the point about it being a leftist naivety, but it is naïve nonetheless. Life feeds on life and all that. That they’re sentient doesn’t matter, some people argue plants are sentient too (not that I necessarily agree)

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          1 year ago

          Plants aren’t capable of feeling pain and are not capable of subjectivity all science currently supports this. Even if you thought plants are sentient (they are not) the best way to lessen plant harm would include as a key precipice the end of animal agriculture.

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              1 year ago

              This study shows nothing but plants respond to stimulus without a brain or nervous system to classify this is a pain response is reaching. Noting that the person interviewed in that article is a philosopher not a scientist and interprets that study very loosely. As I said already though even if you cede this ground you shouldn’t you just wind up at eliminating animal agriculture to lessen the “suffering” of plants as well as animals.

              • Ace T'Ken@lemmy.ca
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                1 year ago

                That one article, yes, but there are more. I trust you know how to use search, but: https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/24473/20191218/a-group-of-scientists-suggest-that-plants-feel-pain.htm We’ve known for a while that trees do this, and fungi are notorious for this.

                You, like many users on this thread are ignoring the evidence because you don’t like the outcome. You not understanding the pain does not mean no pain. Life for some means death for others. Period. You can not avoid it on a micro or macro scale, all you can do is change WHAT you kill.

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                    1 year ago

                    I mean, just because you care about only pain you can see and understand, doesn’t mean you have a leg to stand on argument-wise. Plants respond to warnings from their peers about dangers, brace for pain, and signal pain to others. You are factually and morally incorrect.

                    When allegiance becomes central to identity, simply acknowledging reality can feel like a personal defeat.