- cross-posted to:
- climate@kbin.social
- cross-posted to:
- climate@kbin.social
It’s official, red alerts have gone out across the entire country of Brazil as the heat index hits 137F. The high temperature combined with humidity has made it impossible for most people to carry out their normal lives. There’s already reports of power outages. People can’t work. They can’t run errands. They can barely sleep. It’s not even summer there yet.
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They actually said this would happen.
And yet, we go directly to our graves.
It seems we want to be dead.
It’s a prisoner’s dilemma; you’ll be dead even faster if you’re the first to fight back.
Look to the people who said this. They are calling for revolution, I think we have to start seriously organizing for it this time.
I was talking about scientists saying that climate change will heat up the planet.
Scientists told us long ago that we need to cut fossil fuels or the planet would heat up. And now it has.
a lot of them are pointing to the field of sociology for solutions now
Yeah, let’s burn some more rain forest and see whether it helps.
It definitely doesn’t help but it’s not the reason either
That graph has nothing to do with sequester rates, which is what forests are about.
Forests are a big part of the issue and we need to preserve them.
Damn, sounds like people should consume less of the soy, meat and minerals produced in that area.
By the way, do you happen to know what happened to the 400 million acres in Europe and 300 million acres in the US that used to be forest in the 1800s?
Yep, climate change was super well known then too, fantastic point 👍
Very convenient for those countries that they get to keep all the economic benefit from deforestation and be among the biggest emitters while the people doing what they also did get snide comments implying they deserve to live in conditions unsuitable for humans because of the evils they’re doing
What do you propose then? Make European countries accoutable for mistakes made 200 years ago? Even though most of them are doing really well to transition into green energy? What would that accomplish, exactly?
That would be a good first step, yes.
tax them, distribute the money to the global south. Less disposable income means less consumption, and those funds can be put to use building a green economy in the developing world.
No one on this planet currently had anything to do with any of this, we actually live in year 2023 where we know the consequences of those decisions so why the does that mean we can should make the same mistakes they made hundreds of years ago…they didn’t know any better, we do so we have to do better. Is that fair? No. Is that the hand we were dealt? Unfortunately yes.
We can either whine and justify doing the same shit over and over or we can be better and utilize the knowledge we now have and a choose a more responsible route.
Ah, yes, the fuck you got mine approach. That’s a great climate strategy. Also how the consequences of colonialism, imperialism and slavery have been solved, so you know it’s means-tested.
What is extremely sad is that Brazil has relatively very low emission and consumption rates
The rich dicks around, the poor pays the price
Per capital sucks for these stats but the rainforest isn’t about contributing CO2 it’s about capturing it
Bloody Africa, not providing any data.
And who knows what Greenland’s up too 🤨
Burn forest, plant fields, too hot for fields, … ., no profits!
World News
Brazil
Still uses F first
Wat
Royal Society fellow Daniel Fahrenheit consents to the use of his preluding temperature scale.
Fucking Murika making shit harder for everyone
Yeah like I don’t know how many swimming pools worth of heat it is
What the fuck? I didn’t realize Brazil was going full oven mode
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They have clearly linked their source as BBC. Also, pretty much all major publications have reported on it. Here’s a report by AP: https://apnews.com/article/brazil-heat-wave-climate-environment-wildfires-1e4714fb2c6566120c13cf4e2b657f7d
Red alerts have been issued for almost 3,000 towns and cities across Brazil, which have been experiencing an unprecedented heatwave.
Rio de Janeiro recorded 42.5C on Sunday - a record for November - and high humidity on Tuesday meant that it felt like 58.5C, municipal authorities said.
More than a hundred million people have been affected by the heat, which is expected to last until at least Friday.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-67422663?ref=okdoomer.io
I think what matters here is that the humidity makes this a wet bulb or something similar to a wet bulb instead of actually an oven. It’s super doom but it’s a slightly different and honestly worse kind.
Today’s high temp and humidity in Rio gives them a Wet Bulb Globe Temperature of 77⁰F, which is not great. WBGT of 80⁰-90⁰F is the danger zone, and recent research has suggested that WBGT 85⁰ is probably a more realistic upper limit of human safety.
Sources if you would like to do some doom math yourself:
https://www.wunderground.com/weather/br/rio-de-janeiro
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/wet-bulb
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00738.2021
We definitely are! It’s been a week since I got some sleep … It’s been 37°C to 40°C every day in my city and most people don’t even have AC… I don’t…
Which is also already deadly.
That can be as low as 34C, with 90% humidity. I’m not trying to make it less of a problem, just trying to tune the clickbait down from 11.
Fuck humidity though. I can’t stand it.
It was 42.5 degrees.
Ok, 42.5 I wouldn’t personally survive in any humidity. My suffering season starts when it hits 28 outside.
Coming from a place that sees -40c to +40c almost every year, I can confirm this is not clickbait
Shit I worked with a guy from Oklahoma and mid August we were working near Toronto (Ontario) and he couldn’t take the heat and it was only 30 without the humidity.
That shit ain’t no joke
As someone who feels 34 is as hot as I can handle it and it only qualifies if there is a fuckton of humidity Ill take the bait.
All hail market capitalism!
Turns out muh free market IS the solution to all human crises.
Can’t have human crises without humans, after all.
Thanks for the comment. It said everything I think and I won’t have to rewrite the same thing.
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When India/China run out of water from the mountains it is going to be really fun
Human blood should start cooking at 60°C if I remember well.
How the fuck did this article go from heat in Brazil to long covid research without any fucking bridge 🥲
I mean, I somewhat agree with the points its making and I’m heavily doubting the validity. When someone is not willing to further their own confirmation bias you really need to start asking questions.
Seems like a load of bullshit. This is the only article about it, and it’s from… okdoomer.io?
Lol. Where are the mods?
Oh. This is the smaller world news. My bad.
Also on the shittiest large instance, lemmy.ml
Anyone read Ministry of the Future
It’s November tho…Does Brazil not have a winter?
Southern Hemisphere. It’s late spring there.
A lot of Brazil is in the tropics, so no, not winter kinda latitudes.
But Brazil also extends to something like 33° South, where winter starts in June.
Hmm, interesting 🤔
Winter in Brazil if from june to september, but honestly though it feels like there is one or two weeks of cold and the rest is just as hot as any day. I remember a year where I didn’t wear long sleeved shirts or coats at all.
