Donald Trump rally goers want him to be "day one dictator"
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Trump recently pledged to only be a dictator on "day one" of his hypothetical second term as president.
  • Candelestine@lemmy.worldEnglish
    39·
    11 months ago

    Just a meta thought on the community as a whole, but do we really want to ban all pro-Trump content here? I’d rather a chance to talk to a pro-Trumper in a serious way, to have even a slim chance to try to convince them to be anything else under the sun. Or even just leave some food for thought, that they can chew over, that just maybe could influence their vote.

    I am aware this would open us up to trolls, which would constitute the majority of pro-Trump content, but one of the things I love about Lemmy is, we can handle trolls. I think many of us did our own trolling, in our younger years, which left us with a very particular skillset that most don’t have access to.

    We can, sometimes, do what most others cannot, such as detect and counter particularly good trolls.

    Anyways, I don’t really know. I’m always leery of things preventing supporters of different sides from talking to each other though. Perhaps pro-Trump posts could be banned, but pro-Trump comments allowed? So we can have that chance to actually engage with them and earnestly argue our own positions.

    At the end of the day, though, I think we have very little to fear from talking to them. They’re not particularly well-known for making sound arguments that any of us would find very compelling. The facts are almost always on our side–we have a profound advantage there. I appreciate chances to utilize it, which are already pretty rare.

    • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      7·
      11 months ago

      You’re prolly going to have some issues there as Trump supporters engaging in good faith would be hounded off pretty much anywhere they posted.

      • Candelestine@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        11 months ago

        Probably, yes. I am fully aware that what I am asking is not in any way easy or pleasant.

    • maniclucky@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      11 months ago

      The problem is that even if you make the best argument ever, it’s still playing chess with a pigeon. And to a non-trivial number of people, shitting on the board is a compelling argument. So the balance is changing some number of minds vs the number of people that found the nonsense to be valid.

      Better to not give them the space. They have their own platforms so there’s nothing wrong with having standards for your own.

      • Candelestine@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        I draw a very clear line between the shitting pigeons, and the people that fall for their bullshit, I guess. I want to talk to those people falling for it. I’m willing to deal with pigeons if absolutely necessary I suppose, if they have to come with the territory.

      • Candelestine@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        If you have any clue what you’re talking about, you’d know they don’t like being preached to. They have to come to you.

        • PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          Trust me, I know. This is not a debate community, it’s a circlejerk community. They can go elsewhere or lurk here.

          • Candelestine@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            11 months ago

            I’ll be pretty surprised if there’s many lurkers coming by, when they can’t participate whatsoever. No point.