I really can’t stand their skewed priorities in contrast to the state of Firefox.
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Skewed priorities like trying to make sure that Firefox continues to exist even with the massive amount of competition in the browser space and everything being taken over by chromium. Yeah. Definitely skewed priorities.
you ratiod the shit outta OP
Huh. First time for everything. I don’t think I’ve ever done that before lol.
Mozilla laid off the entire Servo team (new browser engine built with rust) in 2020 and shifted more focus to products and services other than Firefox (like their VPN, Pocket, etc.) - this is public knowledge, they literally published the email that was sent to employees that day (https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Message-to-Employees-Change-in-Difficult-Times.pdf ).
naah, I like mozilla while they aren’t perfect but they are on our side in my opinion
covert monopoly with g**gle
They really just can’t get a break. When they take money from Google they get attacked. When they try to create other revenue streams (pocket, vpn, etc.) they get attacked. I don’t think you want the browser to be a paid for subscription product and the donations aren’t enough to reliably cover browser development.
Maintaining and keeping secure a large standards compliant browser is decidedly expensive. And most of the expenses are not one off they are ongoing.
factually incorrect, they’re just paid to have them as the default search engine and they need that money to maintain the browser
also for “see we’re not a monopoly, firefox exists!”
which is no fault of firefox
they get paid billions of dollars and all you have to do is switch default search engines win win if you really hate it DONATE TO MOZILLA
I don’t see you helping keep the lights on.
I really don’t get the hate. So they release a lot of silly projects that go nowhere. They need to keep trying new stuff! Sometimes cool stuff comes out of it.
I use Firefox daily. I also use other Mozilla projects, like the MDN. MDN has the absolute highest quality JavaScript reference anywhere. I would never want to lose that just so Mozilla can work on one thing and one thing only (FF).
Keeping the spirit of experimentation alive and strong in Mozilla’s DNA is worth having a few projects that don’t work out. Most organizations don’t have that.
can you elaborate?
>goes online
>shitposts
>refuses to elaborate further
>leaves
Bad take
Listen, I love what Mozilla stands for, or at least what they claim to stand for. But every time they’ve been asked to choose between their principles and money, they’ve chosen money. On the one hand, I kind of don’t blame them – after all, if I was a scrappy broke nonprofit singlehandedly maintaining one of the most complex and fast-moving pieces of software mankind has ever devised, I’d probably take money wherever I could get it too – but on the other, paying lip service to caring about your users’ privacy isn’t a good look
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I’m mostly thinking of making Google the default search engine and not doing much of anything to stop its data-gathering out of the box (although I will give them credit for the Tracking Protection feature in private windows and not taking active steps to prevent people from protecting their privacy, what the hell Google), integrating the famously-invasive Pocket into the browser with no obvious way to remove it, and creating a new paid-exclusive AI help chatbot for web deevelopers that’s just ChatGPT in a trenchcoat
Admittedly Mozilla’s track record is light years better than any of the other software companies out there, and I won’t begrudge them taking Google money in order to survive, but…
Are you really complaining for the default search engine? Wtf just change it. Mozzilla really needs the money to stay afloat, just don’t use Google if you don’t want to.
Yeah, I could see how the argument about making Google the default might be nefarious for some default browser where the majority of users probably don’t know how to change it, but this is Firefox we’re talking about. If you know to download and switch your default browser, you’re probably knowledgeable enough to change your browser’s default settings.
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Does it? Is this really a selling point? I don’t think any layman needs to worry about documents that long and absolutely no one needs to summarize a web page in normal browsing.
Edit: not that I’m against it or anything, just kinda stumped that this is considered important.
If all the competition has a useful feature and FireFox doesn’t that will only keep users away from FireFox. The unfortunate reality of today’s world is that people have low attention spans and want an AI to spoon feed them whatever garbage they want.
i dont fucking want ANY program “summarizing” for me. if i want to know what it says ill read the damn thing like an adult. this ““ai”” cannot be trusted because its nothing more than a big math equation. its cool tech but has no real intelligence.
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that still doesnt mean it has any real intelligence. it doesnt understand any of what its saying, only that word a goes next to word b pretty often.
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It takes nearly as long to decrapify a new Firefox install as it does to compile Librewolf.
Install uBlock.
Tell Firefox that you don’t want to sync at the moment.
Disable “sponsored” stories. AKA, listicles designed to draw in idiots who want to see which 8 child actors from the 90s turned out to be the tallest. Alarmingly close to the tacky crap that you might see on a fresh Windows install.
Tell Firefox that you don’t want to sync at the moment.
Now disable Pocket. Remembering to go into about:config to really disable it
Disable telemetry.
Tell Firefox that you don’t want to sync at the moment.
Remove Amazon, Bing, et al. from the search engine list.
Remove “suggested” and “sponsored” autocomplete.
Tell Firefox that you don’t want to sync at the moment.
Remind yourself that, despite this crap, Firefox is still a better browser than any Chromium knockoff.
sorry but disabling telemetry is the worst thing you can do if you care about firefox growing and fixing issues.
It’s not a bad thing that Firefox is doing little things to attract a broader audience, luckily you don’t set it up very often and sync is there to use.
except it is like making it so things can just download without asking so you can go to a webpage and it just downloads stuff automatically which is really insecure but hey chrome does it that way so mozilla just oh so obviously has to copy them yeah you can fix it but that should in no way be the default
Change it so it asks where to download files and this stops, it’s the better option anyway, just less basic user friendly.
Sometimes this doesn’t work though. I use Firefox at work, but I’m required to use Google Drive, and any pdf from Drive will automatically download to my default download location without prompting me. This may not be Mozilla’s fault, but it’s shitty that any site can just choose to ignore my preferences.
I have a similar problem on Android with forcing pinch to zoom. Sites can and do use code to forcibly resist this accessibility setting. Like, a lot of sites.
Sync between mobile and Firefox is good though. Sadly I use Samsung Internet on Android because I think it’s better, but when I used Firefox on both it was really good. I can still use KDE Connect to send the link to my clipboard, but it doesn’t always connect (after a reboot) automatically.
Samsung internet is chromium and often out of date. On Android, use Fennec or Mull (both firefox based, mull is the best security*/privacy android browser)
Firefox users will do all that and then wonder why Google is Mozilla’s sole source of income.
What does “really disable it” mean? How is removing the button from the toolbar different from disabling it in
about:config?Setting up arkenwolf once takes half an hour, and from then on you can just copy and paste it and update it every 3.000 years.
Reading this comment took longer than those steps take. It’s like maybe 3-5 clicks to disable the start page nonsense, and a few more to ad an adblocker.
What about Palemoon? Or epiphany which is pretty decent if you enable extensions support via gsettings and use /etc/hosts for blocking ads for better performance?
tf happened
Twenty years of constant grinding mistreatment of a once-enthusiastic userbase.
huh?
What??
So what’s up with moizlla?
Edit: of course I meant Mozilla. The company behind Firefox and Thunderbird.
So what’s up with moizlla?
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jery signfell
Firefox is wonderful. Mozilla is a fucking mess.
I have been using this browser primarily or exclusively since before it was called Firefox. I can’t tell you the earliest version I still have an installer for, because neither Wine nor Windows will run it. It remains the best option - by a long shot - but not because it’s getting any better.
The time to burn the bird again was a decade ago.
oh so you use Chrome
Librewolf
The firefox derivative?
Yes. Much stronger/safer.
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There is no reason why a “privacy focused browser” should have clickbate news stories on their front page.
You can easily remove them. Mozilla isn’t a for profit company, but they need to have money to run somehow. Dunno if you’ve seen Chrome lately but it’s 1000x worse.
Am i missing something?
It’s not like it used to be. Even thunderbird has had tons of great work put into it. If you’re ever sick of using weird stuff like palemoon you should see for yourself. All the extensions I liked are back.
