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fash can gas millions of civillians and massacre every slav they see on the way to get their asses kicked by the russians at stalingrad and its ‘just defending their country and way of life bro’, but allegedly taking one (1) watch from the guys that genocided literally like a fifth or more your country literally retroactively justifies the holocaust.
stay rational, liberals
“Those 25 million murdered Soviets were no angels”
25 million murdered Soviets upon reaching heaven: “Are you sure the Red Army killed millions of Nazi soldiers? I don’t see any of them up here.”
Red army soldiers can take as many dead fascist watches as they please, whatcha gonna do, cry about it?
Yeah, for people with a
might makes rightphilosophy, they sure get pissy when they get beat
Ok now that I know WW2 involved petty property crimes I think the fascists were right maybe
Unlimited watch theft on the first world
I remember my fucking apush teacher pointing out the two watches circa 2004. Band of Brothers has a whole plotline about bringing home a Luger for your brother, but reappropriating a watch is verboten
Band of brothers literally has a guy with five watches. Who jokes about needing multiple time zones
I’m sorry your grandad’s watch got looted
Someone is posting gore pictures in that thread, proceed with extreme caution. Like reall bad shit. I’ll tell yo the context here so you don’t have to go to the thread
Some Fash is alleging the flag picture was cropped and darkened bc one oft the Soviet soldiers had a “watch” on each wrist, proving that they were the badguys because they must have stolen the watch from a Nazi, which would be bad. This proves that communism doesn’t work and the poor oppressed Germans were something something something fash noises.
The reply point out how fucking stupid that is.
Famously, soldiers have no use for time pieces, and keeping accurate time for strategies or anything especially back then in the analogue age.
Word. Afaik having an accurate time piece, at least for NCOs and officers, was literally life or death since they needed them to do any kind of coordination at a time when radios sucked or were rare and precious, or just couldn’t keep up with an advance.
It wasn’t until the post-911 Iraq-involved-war that generals stopped waiting for the enemy’s army to show to shake hands and lay out the ground rules.
Americans literary sent back entire machine guns back home as trophy’s. Taking a watch is basically nothing.
Afaik, in “Looting is against the laws of war” terms, stealing weapons and war materiel probably isn’t the same thing as taking personal effects from corpses, or durable goods from homes.
I’ll be honest and say I don’t really know what the laws were back then. I know it’s pretty illegal now, but there are forms and stuff you can fill out now to take certain stuff back home, but if it’s anything cool you can pretty much guarantee it’ll be denied or higher up will take it for themselves.
Yeah, idk either. I think the Soviets were actually signed on to more treaties than some of the Western nations, but I’m not 100% on that. AFAIK looting has been frowned upon/a hanging offense since maybe WWI? But Idk.
isn’t the same thing as taking personal effects from corpses
Talking WW2 I’d argue a watch is a personal effect on an ally and an emergency compass on a nazi
Oh yeah, take whatever you want from Nazis, idc. I think there’s something to be said for returning personal effects like ID documents and lockets and whatever to the families where possible, just like as a closure thing, but if you need a watch or a pocket knife or whatever go ham. They’re Nazis. they should have stayed home.
I suspect most militaries take a hard line on looting bc a little bit of looting could escalate to a lot of looting, so they just flat out say no.
CW: Gruesome pacific front shit, racism, dehumanization
spoiler
I’ve read once or twice that there was a trend of US soldiers in the Pacific decapitating Japanses soldiers (mostly), cleaning the skulls, and mailing them back to their families as gruesome trophies. It really speaks to how absolute the dehumanization of Japanese during the war was. I’m not 100% it’s true, though, as I’ve only seen it a couple of times and haven’t dug in to it too much. I can totally see why that wouldn’t be something the US put front and center though.
This proves that communism doesn’t work
Most claims preceding this one are logically indistinguishable from the non-sequitor “In the USSR, two men got into a bar fight, therefor proving that communism doesn’t work.” but always presented as self-evident pristine white glove logic.
My absolute favorite version of this is Enemy at the Gates; Two dudes are both super
for Rachel Weisz (in fairness who isn’t?) therefor Communism cannot work.
found this from @FuknSlammer’s “Tweets & Replies” page so I had no idea about this. thank you for warning everyone.
For what the Red Army did for the world and considering what ghe Nazis did to the Soviet people, every Soviet soldier should’ve had at least 30 watches strapped on them. They should’ve been wearing those watches like a Digimon. Every German should be legally mandated to mail a watch to the descendent of a Red Army soldier every year.
Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.
—Ernest Hemingway
another nazi down, unlimited watches in my inventory
It might be a fun bit to do the due process concern trolling that liberals love to apply to everything from zionist war crimes to to victims of sexual harassment breaking the silence:
“What proof do you that the watch was actually stolen? You can’t just go around accusing random people for theft without being able too back up your accusations. We live in a society governed by laws. For all we know he could have bought and paid for both watches.”
You can point out that the Red Army issued wrist compasses which would look indistinguishable from a watch in grainy WWII era photography.
Probably better to just say that you wish he stole even more watches.
You can do one, then the other if you’re trying to rile up libs. Tell them that the onus of proof is on them to prove that the wrist device in question is a stolen German watch. If they manage to do it via blurry photo forensics, just say “lol good I hope he got a lot of dead Nazi watches.”
I hope to God I end up in the very specific circumstances where I can do this.
God I hate vox
did they run a gommulism bad article on this or something
They did a video on “photo manipulation” that briefly says “hey the nazis did fucked up shit” and then proceeds to treat the Red Army as uniquely prone to doing SA. They then apologized in the comments for…referring to them as “the Russians” because other people in the USSR fought, but they framed it more like " we are sorry we invisiblized the poor Ukrainians who where coerced into fighting the Nazis. Like they still couldn’t view there as being such a thing as “soviet people”. Just Russians and other people dragged along even when complimenting them.
They essentially wanted to show the Soviets as inventing fake news
They essentially wanted to show the Soviets as inventing fake news
lol, lmao. nobody thought ever thought about lying in public media until the year 1917. what an amazingly innocent species we are!
the poor Ukrainians who where coerced into fighting the Nazis.
Do these stupid bastards know what region is between Germany and Russia?
Wasn’t one of the “Watches” a fucking compass?
Even if it was two, three, or seven watches - It’s 1945. You don’t have an iPhone, but you need to have two different alarms set for different things happening today. WHAT DO YOU DO, IVAN? WHAT WAS YOUR PLAN TOVARSICH!?!?!?!
Also yeah fuck those Nazis. Dead Nazis don’t need to tell time, live soldiers do.
Anyway, that fash think something this banal is some kind of own is very fashy.
Stealing from the guys who STARTED the shooting is cool and good,
liberalsfascists can stay mad if they wannaMost common item drop, surprised he doesn’t have more.
As a german I think it’s prudent to point out to everyone defending the communist time-taking here that the wehrmacht was made up entirely out of truck drivers, medics and radio operators. checkmate, leftists
no! my innocent war criminal medics!
