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    11? Fuck that, I’m not sidegrading to 8.

    I ain’t even joking. My media PC is still on 7, everything else is on Linux now.

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        Stockholm syndrome windows users trying to justify their toxic relationship to microsoft (colorized circa 2020).

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        It’s insecure (in more ways than one) to be running Windows in general. If you value security to a high degree you probably shouldn’t be using Windows.

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        Well, security doesn’t matter for a media device like that. The exposure is so minimal that it might as well not exist.

        Hell, considering I really only use it to pirate shit maybe once a month nowadays, my main desktop PC isn’t even on enough to matter; I could keep any old OS on it.

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      I’ve been forced to install Windows 10 on my brand new build because it doesn’t support W7.

      But Steam is also dropping W7 support by the end of this year anyway. Yes, there are native Linux games on Steam and there’s also Proton and WINE, but it’s not a 100% solution.

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        Why would it support a 14 year old OS whose final release was 12 years ago and mainstream support ended 8 years ago?

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        Well, I was hyped for Baldur’s gate 3, and I may still end up getting it, but I’d have to upgrade too much hardware to play it, and there’s really no other games that I’m interested in.

        Musicbee is the main reason I’m still running 7 on that pc rather than some flavor of linux. If it ever gets a port, or actually starts working right via wine, bye bye windows for me.

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          MusicBee is excellent, but I gave up on it to switch to Linux. Also, I’ve started to fall in love with simple players which depend on folder structure rather than a database, although I suppose one might miss the customisation with MusicBee

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    True story: I had been consistently telling my laptop not to upgrade to Windows 11 for literally months. I left it at home for like 3 days and when I came back it had upgraded itself anyway. That was the day I completely deleted Windows from my laptop. Formatted the entire hard drive and haven’t regretted it yet. Never even logged into Windows 11.

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    Does win 11 still require physical hardware to run? Why I have to sacrifice one of my motherboard slots for a worthless authentication chip that might stop working and brick my computer - ya I’ll stay with 10.

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        It’s built into my CPU but for some reason MS doesn’t trust the Intel Core i7 chips.

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        Strange, I thought it was a standard header. Why I bought 10 instead of 11 when building my computer.

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          It’s either the LPC header or it’s soldered onto the board directly. LPC header doesn’t have any other *official uses so it’s not sacrificing functionality. Though I can understand why somebody wouldn’t want to have a TPM module on their board. It’s pretty easy to bypass that requirement in Windows (over and over) though.

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      You’re not sacrificing a slot. TPM chips are typically either soldered onto the motherboard, built into the chipset, or (in the few instances that they are optional) go in a special port just fir them.

      There are plenty of reasons not to move to W11 without making up new ones.

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      Technically it’s an artificial requirement, it’ll run just fine without secure boot and TPM, you’ll just need to do some work around to install it that way.

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    TIL that you can be coerced into win 11 upgrade. I have immunity, tho! My PC is too shitware ;-;

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      It told me that too. Which was fine because like nobody asked? But then it did it anyway. Quietly in the night like the sneaky little hoe that it is. I’m still pretty salty. I thought I was safe 😔

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        Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa. But…if your machine is too weak to run it…isn’t this simply damaging your machine at that point?! The hell?!

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          Yeah I dunno it’s an older surface too lol. So it already wasn’t super great. If I’m being honest I haven’t noticed much of a difference other than having to move the start button because I’ll be damned if I’m gonna have that thing in the middle of my screen like some kind of crazy person

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    I moved to Linux (Arch btw) and I haven’t looked back.

    The lack of bloatware and the snappiness of Linux just beats any other OS.

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      Can you tell me what your remember about it? I remember watching an episode or two and not liking it, but I’m curious about your opinion.

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    Stay on 10 for as long as possible if you have to use windows. Ideally go for LTSC and even more ideally, switch to sth else

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      The problem arises if Microsoft introduces a new version of DirectX that is exclusive to Windows 11…like they did with DirectX 12.

      When that time comes, I’m moving to Linux full time. If I have issues, I’ll just bust out the Series X.

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      LTSC is good for a machine with a dedicated purpose. My DJ laptop runs LTSC, for example. But I wouldn’t suggest using it as your main OS unless you don’t mind reinstalling Windows every year (I don’t, but some people do).

      11 really isn’t that bad once you work around the bullshit. Use StartAllBack to restore the old Start Menu and position the taskbar vertically, and SoundSwitch to keep it from changing your default audio device every time you plug something in. Once you install those two apps, dare I say that 11 is better than 10.

      Hell, it’s worth it alone for its considerably better HDR experience. In 10 you had to constantly fiddle with it, or even turn it off altogether when viewing non-HDR content, if you didn’t want a washed-out image. In 11, just enable AutoHDR, change your monitor settings to automatically tone map (instead of using HGiG), and forget about it. You’ll never have to mess with settings, toggling things, or calibrations ever again to get a good HDR and SDR image, even in games. It just works.

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        Yes, ltsc should be reinstalled every once in a while but imho 2-3 years is fine.

        Windows 11 may have improved hdr but at the same time comes with far more ads, with far more bundled bloatware etc. So it’s up to you to judge.

        Last time I booted into windows which was in 2021-ish, I literally removed 5 Gb o junk from that OS.

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          Well thankfully you can remove the Start menu ads with StartAllBack, and the rest by following this guide.

          That said, if you don’t care about HDR, then you’re probably better off with 10 or LTSC. Everybody has different needs. Mine so happen to make 11 the better option for me.

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          Yes but AutoHDR. I’d gladly pay for StartAllBack twice if it means that I never have to deal with Win10’s HDR ever again.