• Anarcho-Bolshevik@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Survey on February 5-10 by the Kiev International Institute of Sociology found that 72% of respondents agreed with the opinion that Ukraine should also look for a diplomatic way to end the war are Russian trolls who simply want Putin to win the war

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    9 months ago

    Truly baffling thing that the only thing russia wanted is no nato, crimea is theirs, and ukraine politicians warped it to russia hates our freedoms, we should nazify further.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      9 months ago

      That’s what happens when the government that represents the interests of your country gets overthrown in a western backed coup and gets replaced by a puppet regime.

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        9 months ago

        Its more like oligarchic government, interested in their own means of production and thus coincidentally in interests of country, was replaced by vibes based government interested in retirement think tank circuit.

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          For sure, as with any capitalist regime, it’s the interests of the oligarchs that the regime represents first and foremost.

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      9 months ago

      Thats not the goal of the russian invasion of Ukraine. Neither the officially stated one nor the unofficial one.

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    9 months ago

    Hard to square that with 89% still thinking Ukraine will eventually win and a whopping 66% thinking the “most realistic” outcome is either Ukraine getting everything back plus Crimea or Ukraine taking the fight into Russia.

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      9 months ago

      A simple explanation might be that people are afraid to speak their minds because they expect reprisals from the regime.

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        9 months ago

        But they’re willing to say Ukraine should negotiate? And not only are they positive about Ukraine’s chances, but they also think they’re going to roll Russia out of territory it’s held uncontested since 2014?

        Just seems wildly inconsistent.

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          9 months ago

          Saying they support negotiations seems like a pretty mild thing to say no? Outright saying that you don’t believe in Ukrainian victory could earn you a trip to the frontlines.

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        9 months ago

        That’s how I handle especially sensitive questions on the surveys that I take, even when they explicitly assure me that my identity shall remain ‘confidential’. I just lie. Any researcher careless enough to ask something like ‘Have you done anything illegal lately?’ hardly deserves a truthful answer.

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        They aren’t living in Russia. There is no ‘regime’ and they can freely say whatever they want. Its Russia, where a regime prohibits what you can say, for example call the war a war or lay down flowers in memory of Nawalny. You are mixing up these two countries.

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    9 months ago

    Thats not what this survey said. It said ‘should Ukraine try to get a diplomatic solution in addition to a military one’, also 70 % said, that they will endure the war as long as it takes and over 65 % sax that the end of the war is, when Ukraine gains its territories back including Crimea.