Annelle Sheline resigned from the State Department in March after she determined that it was nearly impossible to do her job – promoting human rights in the middle east – in light of the genocide in Gaza. Now at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, she joins Bad Faith to debate the merits of working to reform systems from the inside, and to provide behind the scenes insights into how some of her former colleagues try to push back from the inside. Do Matt Miller’s craven takes from the podium prove the futility of that effort? Is US narrative building around the “rules based order” being destroyed by access to independent media?