Hello users of hexbear, we have started discussions with an admin of lemmy.ca regarding potential refederation. Lemmy.ca had added hexbear to their blocklist about a year ago: https://lemmy.ca/post/3326347
With the recent changes in lemmy features as well as a maturing fediverse the mods/admins of hexbear and lemmy.ca are open to trying again, but before we put lemmy.ca on our allow-list we wanted to open up discussion and voting to the users of hexbear.
This vote will be binding with regard to adding lemmy.ca to our allow-list. In addition, the idea of including sh.itjust.works in this discussion was raised but was voted down by a majority of mods from inclusion.
https://lemmy.ca/c/canada and https://lemmy.ca/c/pcgaming are the instance’s top two communities but there are a few other small, niche communities. A community that may be removed from hexbear is the https://lemmy.ca/c/fediverselore so please indicate your opinion on this community if you have one.
As usual please use
if you would like lemmy.ca to be added to our allow-list
if you would like lemmy.ca to not be added to our allow-list
We will leave this post unlocked for a few days before making the decision, thank you. Users may also use this post for a general discussion on federation including naming instances for federation/defederation or feedback for the hexbear admin/mod team.
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as long as .ca understands nothing will fundamentally change from the hexbear population.
I don’t think we should ever re-fed in bad faith or because it would be funny. If we know it won’t work, then we shouldn’t do it. But my hope here is that .ca has shed some of its former redditiness and is more willing to talk to non-liberals.
nothing will fundamentally change from the hexbear population
If they punt all the ukronazis out of their govenrment and stop making war on the first natioons i promise to be civil.
Is America much different? I would rather not be associated with my government’s actions and I’m sure plenty of Canadians feel the same
Is America much different?
No and the same rules apply
I mean correct people where they’re wrong but be rude to them about why they suck not about where they live
Unfortunately given the family history of Chrystia Freeland, we’re unlikely to see a course-reversal on Canada’s undying support for Ukrainian fascists. In a just world, her nazi maternal grandfather would have been shot on sight instead of given citizenship.
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that site has like 20 daily users, i dont think we’ll even notice they’re federated unless a hapless lib accidently steps in it.
I should not need to explain, I am always open to reaching people.
Lowkey most based poster
noooooooooooooo
If we do refederate, can each community display each other’s code of conduct for around a week before actually federating? They need to understand their reddit liberalism isn’t acceptable in this corner.
From what I’ve seen, the .ca has a lot of reactionary posters.
From what I’ve seen, the .ca has a lot of reactionary posters.
yeah, there’s an admitted cop on there who posts a lot of dogshit assed takes
ACAB - All Canadians Are Bastards
What’s the point of being online if people aren’t even seeing the propaganda we post
and please tell the shitjustworks people to suck mehttps://lemmy.ca/c/fediverselore ban this from Hexbear if ca gets federated. Spaces exclusively about internet drama are bad for the soul
Our glorious the_dunk_tank, their wicked fediverselore (not saying you’re wrong though).
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there’s a significant number of immature replies slandering us / Canada.
As a result of this cowardice I am going to ratchet up my Kkkanada slander.
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its literally a troll instance. most instances defederated from them for a reason
Dang, since all the instances that defederate Hexbear also defederate Lemmygrad.ml, Lemmygrad.ml must be a troll instance, too
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Hexbear users aren’t leftists, they’re radical centrists. Preach the virtues of communism while attacking people for being communists. Speak up about the genocide in Palestine while denying the genocide in China. Support capitalist Russia and Imperialist Putin in the name of anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism. Preach the values of queer acceptance while harassing people for being trans. Every good opinion they have is tainted by acting the exact opposite way the next day. They claim to be leftists, but 50% of the time their actions are the actions of fascists.
I think there’s some tagline potential in here somewhere.
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Even weirder, the user that posted this accusation, hasn’t even interacted with Hexbear, no comments, no posts, nothing.
that user has been shitting up instances for months, including ours. Look at their blahaj contributions if you can. Do not engage
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we have fedjacketing, they have hexbearjacketing
there’s a significant number of immature replies slandering us / Canada.
The mod team at .ca introduced the topic by complaining about us right off the bat. Which is contrasted to the overall neutral/positive/lowdrama intro posted here.
The comments were ready to jump in with more winging and whining. And again to contrast, both threads have their “concerns” and annoyances. On hexbear you can see taking responsibility for past/future disputes. Talking about what is the .ca expectation of us, what sorts of conflicts are foreseeable and the outcomes of that, etc. On .ca nothing like that. Just cowering from the memes. (TIL the rest of the internet isn’t full of memes.)
I was hoping for some quality smoke time reading badposts from the federation dissenters in that thread but even their fear and hate are boring rehashes and vague rumors. It should have been funny, but i left feeling flat…
Hexbear, is this irony poisoning?
As long you keep this place save, Im happy
The admins do not get enough credit
True, all the love to the people that keep this wonderful place running.
Many people are saying this
No, these lemmy fuckers come in here and harass trans comrades.
Going onto lemmy dot cee ayy and saying DOWN WITH CIS
I think the ideal situation is federating with as many places as possible (with exceptions for nazis and such ofc) but very loosely pressing the ban button, like how the dbzero mods are banned here but not the instance itself. I know that creates more work for the mods though, but since ya’ll suggested it, I assume you considered that.
fuckin love the dbzero mods gettin banned
sh.itjust.works can fuck off forever
why did they add hexbear to the blocklist in the first place, i need the lore
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I don’t know, personally I’m still going to hate on Banderites and if someone were to whine about that I might respond with ppb (or the Hitler particles detected emoji, emojis have come such a long way!).
I also think that most people here just want landlord’s properties expropriated from them, that when someone is being seriously fucked with by their landlord, you can’t expect them not to start joking about guillotines or whatever.
Unless lemmy.ca can compromise here we’re just gonna defed again right?
That second citation for “general trolling” is fucking hilarious
https://lemmy.ca/post/3095221/2146513
I salute you @GaveUp@hexbear.net and @Frank@hexbear.net
Unless .ca is ok with more of this, I concur I don’t think it will work out. I don’t mind the chaos though tbh.
Did we get defed’d? Do i get a medal for co-defeating kkklanada?
Reading their year-iold discussion about defedding, and honestly what they did to themselves arguing about us was much, much worse than anything we did to them. Smdh someone tried to drag roman law in as some kind of justification for the ethics of land lordism!
Yes but you have to return the medal if we re-fed.
Fuck better go make some alts then I guess!
there’s a form you can fill to ask for it to be returned to you if we re-de-fed
I will still call for Execution of Landlords regardless of Federation status lot even Mao can stop me
first complaint is ppb… I don’t think it’s gonna work out
honestly idk about refederation with these people. im sure there are nice people there but if some of them are just going to keep complaining about ppb and russia and acting in bad faith then id rather pass
I just actually checked the comments, why is every defed thread the exact same? trolls ppb china russia far left=far right making real communists look bad waahh
And my favourite, ‘brigading’
Well, most of the anglo sphere are in nato, nato are fascists, fascisst and communists and like oil and oxygenated flourine compounds. Sort of a circle of life thing.
“Are there nice people in KKKlanada” is a complicated question because it hinges on whether nice is the same as kind and whether first nations land is part of Canada or occupied territory in violation of international law.
and whether first nations land is part of Canada or occupied territory in violation of international law.
I’ve had a lot of fun trolling people IRL here in
who defend Israel’s “self defence” by demanding that Canada be returned to the control of the descendents of those who lived within its modern borders 2000 years ago.
aww look this whole vote is a consequence of everyone being nice to vegans.
I forgot about the reddit culture thing of hating vegans. ledditor bar is so low, being nice to vegans is considered shocking
there was a moral panic going on. everyone was doing it.
that’s when i made my account. history shows us that moral panics are typically about good fun righteous and/or gay things.
I think it’s funny that by getting lemmy.ca domain this website represents all of kkkanada in the lemmyverse. knowing kkkanadians i bet that weighs heavily on the maintainers. they perhaps even wish to subdue and recuperate hexbear on behalf of liberalism.
Excuse me, but it’s KKKlanada
kkkanada is legit variation
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Hg1iCCpKmVY (cw: anti indigenous violence, the kkk)
