Post your list in the comments!
Personally I like having multiple leaders of a civ available, each with their own unique bonuses and therefore playstyle. So you get to choose a civilization you will play as (which influences starting location etc) and then the leader themselves which will further affect gameplay.
20 civs :)
n+1 civs XD
I think my personal list would be:
- China
- Egypt
- Rome
- America
- Brazil
- The Inca
- The Mayans
- England
- Spain
- France
- Indonesia
- Japan
- Arabia
- The Mauryans
- Hawaii
- The Swahili
- Russia
- Germany
- Mali
Trying to get a nice geographic spread, so I’m missing a few staples, but I think they can wait for DLC, it’s my philosophy that diversity should be less of an afterthought 😅
@actsukrit I really like your list, but I would personally make a couple of adjustments: Replace Spain with Greece, and Brazil with Mongolia.
I recognize that it makes it a bit more “conventional”, but I can far more easily justify Spain and Brazil as DLC/Expansion civs than Greece and Mongolia. And I think it’d keep that diversity you were trying to achieve.
If I could pick one more, I’d go with Babylon.I do hope they pick their civs a bit more carefully than what they did for Civ 6, that base game roster left a lot to be desired. Its saving grace was the huge amount of DLC it got over the years…
Agree on Babylon, it feels a bit weird leaving Mesopotamia empty.
I think it would be possible to have a base game without Greece if they chose the right leader for Rome. A Rome lead by someone like Hadrian or Justinian might be just Greek enough to last until DLC.
I think some of the trouble with getting a good spread is that there are four modern European powers that are basically guaranteed for every single game. After checking off the other must-haves there aren’t that many slots left.
Perfectly fair, though I personally could see a Greece + Persia DLC again like they did with Macedonia + Persia this time around.
It really can be difficult covering everyone when you’ve only so many spots!
@actsukrit Totally right, it’s incredibly hard to condense all of history to just 20 or so cultures, specially if you’re trying to juggle being geographically and culturally diverse + including all those must-have ones + having well-known ones that appeal to a wide audience + having new ones.
For all my opinion is worth, I do think you managed very well! And if your list was Civ 7’s base roster, I’d be far happier with it than I was with Civ 6’s.I guess if there’s one wish I have regarding this, I hope they find a way to make civs and leaders cheaper/faster to make than in Civ 5 and Civ 6, so that we can have more of them overall. Those two games did reach record numbers, but for both the devs did comment on how the work/time/budget necessary to make them had ballooned compared to previous entries.
Switch out Brazil for Persia, Germany/France/Spain for Mongolia (or another Central Asian or Steppe civ) and rename the Mauryans to Magadha and this is basically my list.
It’s very hard to decide which civs to leave out, though.NGL, completely forgot Persia existed, there are just so many regions of the world I wanted to cover 😅
Very understable, the world is quite large.
Well, let’s get the “guaranteed” ones out of the way first:
- America - Harry Truman
- Arabia - al-Mansur
- Aztec - Tizoc
- Brazil - Pedro II
- China - Taizong of Tang
- Egypt - Hatshepsut
- England - George III
- France - Francis I
- Germany - Theophanu
- Greece - Epaminondas
- India - Rajendra Chola
- Japan - Suiko
- Rome - Scipio Africanus
- Russia - Elizabeth
All of the above are basically assured a seat at the table, which leaves us just a few left. So…
- Ottomans - Kosem Sultan
- Sweden - Ragnar Lothbrok (needed a viking)
- Zulu - Mkabayi
- Inuit - Kiviuq
- Akkad - Naram-Sin
Those are some really slant picks
Is that the list of what you want to see in the next civ game? Like, if you ignored the “guaranteed” choices, would you still pick the same civs?
I would definitely like to see all of the above in the next civ game at some point. They’re nice touchstones and any civ game feels incomplete at best without them and many more. At worst, without them feels like a statement. Anyways, if it were up to me, I’d like to see some more African civs (like Great Zimbabwe, Ashanti, and Nigeria, Madagascad), some more Islamic civs (Yemen, Timurids, Morocco, Somalia), some more Native North Americans (Salish, Cree, Sioux, Mississippians), and the full gamut of Ancient Fertile Crescent civs (Hittites, Assyria, Sumer, Akkad, Babylon, Phoenicia). You’ll also note that I tried to pick cool leaders who have never appeared in the game before, which I think was an admirable goal they didn’t quite follow through with in Civ 6.
- Lizard people
- Mole men
- CHUDs
- Iroquois
- Atlanteans
- Hobbits
- Dark elves
- Darker elves
- Raccoons
- Neanderthals
- Darkest elves