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    Improbable female authority figure

    Lmao tell me you are basement incel stereotype with zero actual people contact without telling me you are basement incel stereotype with zero actual people contact

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    anyone who is this obsessed with “woke” in video games needs to have their computer forcibly taken away and sent to a gulag and be forced to touch grass until they become normal

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    Canonically literally every Space Marine (except for the Blood Angels IIRC) should have dark skin when exposed to sunlight and then (except for the Salamanders) flash to an unnatural pallor when they step inside, because one of the mutations they get is photochromic skin to protect them from getting sunburns while still ensuring they get enough vitamin D. That sounds incredibly stupid and like I just made it up but that is the actual canon from the lore, along with Space Marines eating their enemies brains to gain their knowledge and having acid spit like the xenomorph.

    Warhammer 40K is a very silly franchise and the art direction does it a disservice by not leaning into it more.

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      Back during the Rogue Trader and 2nd edition days was when it was absolutely obvious

      Noise marines killing dudes by rocking out

      Harlequins dancing around in clashing loud colors

      Squats

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      Also the Emperor is from somewhere in what is now Turkey and canonically the most common language the humans speak (“Gothic”) is descended from Mandarin and is just artistically portrayed as being Latin based because “High Gothic” is supposed to scan as archaic in the way that inserting incorrect Latin into English does.

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        You have a source for Gothic being Mandarin-descended? Never heard that before, but I could see it. The imperial palace being in the himalayas would certainly put it geographically in the correct place, but I don’t remember from where he started the unification wars.

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          I think it’s something from an old Rogue Trader article? So it may be more a metacommentary from an old writer sort of thing, that Gothic would have been descended from Mandarin with a bunch of English vocabulary mixed in, albeit all unrecognizable after tens of thousands of years of sound changes.

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            Just checked and Lexicanum has the following sentence on Low Gothic:

            Low Gothic is a bastardised version of High Gothic, combining additional elements from several of the oriental languages of ancient Terra.

            So close enough, but it still had to hit the 80’s racism quotient lol.

  • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    improbable female authority figure

    female authority figure is Cadian

    Cadia is (yes, Cadia still stands. fite me chaos nerds) a world where every human with a pulse and an age above 5 is handed a rifle and sent to boot camp because LITERAL HELL IS RIGHT THERE, JUST LOOK UP AT THE DAEMONS COMING TO GET YOU

    Bruh.

    Ultramarines are improbably diverse

    Ultramar is literally Space Rome, a massive cosmopolitan space empire consisting of 500 worlds and trillions of people

    capitaldcolon

    I’m going to find this person and beat them with my worn-out copy of Know No Fear until they stop whining about the existence of women and black people long enough to have at least a cursory knowledge of the lore they’re butchering.

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      I remember part from the book about Ursula Creed (“Creed: Ashes of Cadia”), which was sadly the only good part of that book, where some general during war council tried to use Ursarkar against Ursula “What would your daddy do” and she straight up responded: “My father commanded over the worst disaster in entire history of Cadia. Excuse me but i would prefer to win”

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        Cadia literally has child soldiers. Like they teach their kids how to use a gun before they teach them to read. In the event of a demonic invasion, Cadians expect toddlers to man the front lines. Fact: adult women are stronger than a five-year-old boy.

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    the imperium is undeniably human supremacist but has no problem putting every gender into the meat grinder equally

    like, this has always been the canon these fucks just want to think it’s some tradcath space future

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    Daily reminder that ~literally the FIRST~ early Space Marine kits included female Space Marines, and if you remind the average 40K fan of that you’d better have an umbrella ready for the fash tears.

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      Personally I don’t think they sold like shit because they were women, either. I think they sold like shit because they look like complete shit. Even the best paint jobs on those two models still look awful.

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        Yeah the faces on them are really rough, basically impossible to make them look good. Then there’s the hilariously tiny waists - even corseted Sisters of Battle don’t look that thin!

        But speaking of SOBs, I’ve got a whole company of the original pewter SOB models and those still look great. GDubs figured out how to sculpt heads and just decided not to give FSMs another go, which is a shame.

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      It’s true that there were a pair of models of FSM back in ye olde Rogue Trader days (Female Warrior Gabs and Female Warrior Jayne), but they weren’t in the first batch. The first space marine model was the metal LE2 Imperial Space Marine in '85 (or possibly '86), followed by the RTB01 plastic kit in Sept '87 which came out at the same time as Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader (aka 1st edition). Gabs and Jayne were metal models ordered individually from a miscellaneous “Adventurers” release in Spring '88.

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      Every time I think “hm, this could be fun,” I remember what Warhammer fans can be like and immediately go back to “nah.”

      Too much money to play with the worst dredges of reactionary racist dorks. I’d rather enjoy my free time.

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        Tabletop wargames aren’t just 40k. 40k is just the largest group. A lot of places will play historical games (like War of the Roses or Napoleonics), small indie games (Gaslands, Turnip28, Trench Crusade), established franchises with a cult following (Battletech, Warmachine, Frostgrave, Confrontation), or internet community projects (Wyrd Wars, Renegade Scout, One Page Rules).

        So if you want to get into tabletop games, don’t let 40k stop you. If you have friends who you play games with, you can always make forces for two players and play together like you would a boardgame or RPG.

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    I fell into a rabbit hole and started watching Warhammer lore videos a few years ago and then something - I don’t know exactly what, maybe tone of voice or word choices - made me fall into another rabbit hole of searching for the content creators + feminism to see if they had gone on some insane rant and so many of them had made a “very special video” on the subject.

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    The Space Marines in Space Marine 2 are Ultramarines, hailing from Ultramar, which consists of around 500 planets. It’s highly unlikely that the population of these 500 worlds would be entirely white—in fact, it’s almost impossible. Therefore, even if we stick to the lore, it makes sense that there would be Asian, and yes, Black, Ultramarines.

    Furthermore, considering the Imperium of Man is in a state of total war, it’s laughable to criticize the existence of women in positions of authority. You can bet they’re recruiting everyone they can, and—gasp—some of those recruits are going to be women. Some of them will naturally rise through the ranks.

    You can tell these criticisms come from people who don’t actually love the lore but just engage with it to push their xenophobic agenda. It’s ironic that the Imperium of Man a Totalitarian Nightmare is too “progressive” for modern chuds.

    Little Icing on top. The Emperor most likely isnt “white” at least not blonde and blue eyed since he is originally from Anatolia (yes Turky)

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      Like, the books and video games have tons of high ranking women in positions of power in the Ecclesiarchy, Inquisition, Astra Militarum, Adeptes Custodes, planetary governors etc.

      Bunch of fake fans, probably don’t even know Commissar Cain’s infamous tryst with Inquisitor Amberley Vail smdh

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    GENESEEDS ARE IMPLANTED INTO A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THEIR RACE, IT ONLY ADDS THE CAPACITY FOR FURTHER ENHANCEMENTS SUCH AS THE BLACK CARAPACE OR THE THING WHERE THEY CAN GAIN MEMORIES BY EATING BRAINS

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    Chuds in their infinite glory have become the very strawmen they built up leftists of being. Complete with obsessing over a game’s politics rather than the gameplay, which they are supposed to care so much about.