• auzy@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Ending the war on drugs doesn’t. I disagree

    Sorry. It’s the exact opposite. Here in Australia we have a serious meth problem and we are full of assholes who are incredibly toxic and drugged up. Ending the war on drugs just makes addictive drugs even more accessible, so people are more likely to try them and encourage others to do so

    Highly addictive drugs should not be legalized, and it certainly isn’t the reason for school shootings and such

    What protects us is gun laws, and you guys need stronger ones

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      The war on drugs is a euphemism. Ending It doesn’t mean stop drug legislation, it means stop putting parents in jail for 10 years and putting their kids in care because they smoked weed and the kid accidentally told a cop when the cop visited their school and told them if they didn’t rat out their parents something worse would happen.

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        Correct. The majority of our prison is non violent drug offenders, who lose their children, which end up in bad situations…which cause some of them to turn to gangs for that family role. It’s a cycle that feeds violence, and the most fucked up part, is it drastically effects minorities more than anyone else.

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        They already changed that didn’t they?

        I was in denver 2 weeks ago, and didn’t seem like anyone was going to jail for cannabis…

        It didn’t stop gun violence.

        Gun violence has very little to do with drug legalisation. It seems like people are just tacking it on as something they want, but it seems fairly dishonest, especially since you guys are getting a lot of mass shootings at schools and such which clearly aren’t related. It might only reduce the number of smaller shootings

        Better gun control is the primary factor that stops gun violence in most countries. At this time, everyone in US treats them like toys and fashion accessories. So when someone is getting bullied or having a shitty week, its very easy for them to snap and react. Here in Australia, they can’t easily react by grabbing a gun.

        We pulled the majority of them out of circulation for a reason… And it worked

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          K-12 and colleges/universities are only the setting of ~12.8% of mass shootings.

          Your just making speculative hyperbole about a nation a hemisphere away. Isolating any one factor as reducing crime is often near impossible. A downward trend following legislative can just as easily be attributed to other factors like a general decline in criminality over time or due to bettering economic conditions (among countless other factors).

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          You in Australia did not have anywhere near the firearms we have in civ hands. Even then, the forced confiscation you did only 60% turned in their firearms. You know what %60 leaves here in the states? Over 100 million firearms in civ hands.

          The drug wars target mainly minorities which cause parents to go to jail, and kids to turn to gangs. It absolutely has an effect on our gun violence. Which the mass majority of our violence comes from is gang related, not random shootings like you hear in the news.