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As Hurricane Helene careened toward Florida’s Panhandle, numerous Republicans voted against extending funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).
Last week, Congress approved $20 billion for FEMA’s disaster relief fund as part of a stopgap spending bill to fund the government through December 20. But the measure left out billions of dollars in requested supplemental disaster funding.
The Senate approved the measure by a 78-18 vote on September 25 after it passed the House in a 341-82 vote. Republicans supplied the no votes in both chambers.
Some of the Republicans who voted against the bill represent states that have been hard hit by Helene, including Florida Representative Matt Gaetz.
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As always, for these ghouls the cruelty IS the point.
What a useful comment.
To lemmy users, all Republicans are one-dimensional villainous caricatures twirling their mustaches
When have they proven otherwise?
I’d imagine they’ve proven otherwise many times. People aren’t one-dimensional pain-inflicting villainous caricatures. But nothing I say would convince you of that.
If you can give me a single solid event, I might be willing to believe it. But when people ask for proof and you respond “it’s happened, many people are saying it, but you wouldn’t believe me” that’s not a very convincing argument. Nor are the actions of local Republicans a convincing argument in favor of them not being mustache-twirling comic book villains. I believe this about them because this is all that they have given me reason to believe about them. If your every action is in service to evil then I label you evil. I will change my labels if and when they choose to act outside of them. I have seen precious little acting outside of that label since I’ve been old enough to pay attention to politics.
Ok, if you say “show me one single act where a Republican acted with any singular other interest besides the explicit directive of making people suffer” I’ll spend my time finding an instance. Or you can just admit that you didn’t mean what you said, and no matter what I say you won’t change your mind, and we can go about our days.
So at best they are just stupid.
It doesn’t take stupidity to be caught up in propaganda.
So far you have said nothing to answer the question.
Imagine commenting this on a post about how the only people to vote against a bill to help disaster victims are Republicans. Lemmy users don’t have to assume anything. It’s the entire subject of the headline lol. Nice martyr complex though.
Martyr complex lol. Lemmy users love to assume that if you don’t demonize half of the country, that you’re a Nazi. You are the real caricature. I’ve been a straight ticket dem voter since I was 18 in the 04 election, probably longer than you’ve been alive. That doesn’t fit your extremely narrow worldview though lol
Cry about how poorly everyone is treating Republicans for doing what they are doing then say you’re a “dem”. Lol, good try. This strategy gets posted often in far right forums.
Also I didn’t say anything about Nazis. You brought that up. Really going through the checklist aren’t we? I said that the title of this post is about how Republicans did something objectively evil. I then called you out for defending that and trying to demonize the entire Lemmy community with a straw man. I’m sure that there are some Republican voters who are appalled by this vote and I hope they see what their party stands for.
Your attempt to create outrage and keep others from engaging will not work here.
Goddamn, you types are really weird. There’s always one of you calling me a pLaNt. I don’t even see what my motivation would be, lol “omg he’s saying people are multidimensional and have different motivations, must be a Republican PLANT trying to KEEP OTHERS FROM ENGAGING”, lol it “WILL NOT WORK HERE”, do you hear yourself and how insane that sounds? As if that’s more plausible than a progressive dem that believes that maybe 50% of the country aren’t solely motivated by the drive to inflict suffering?
what a dimented worldview to have, I genuinely feel sorry for you, that that’s the world you live in. That my totally reasonable takes in this thread defines me, a literal straight-ticket dem voter for 20 years, as a Republican plant
Within the context of this bill, how else can one explain all the NO votes purely from Republicans? What about republicans whose states are devastated by Hurricane Helene?
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I don’t know man, I’m sure they had reasons other than “solely to inflict suffering on other humans”. Frankly, I don’t care. Republican politicians are mostly scum. But painting every Republican as a one-dimensional caricature that subsists on the suffering of others is shortsighted, naive, hyperbolic, and dangerous.
If they werent. They wouldnt be aligning with facists.
Lol jesus christ. What are you, 13?
Can you prove they aren’t? Tell you what, for every piece of evidence you provide that shows them acting in people’s best interest, I’ll provide two pieces that show the opposite.
Understanding the motives of so many individual people is difficult. Lets just reduce it to greed and come up with some memes. This way we arent doing nothing.
Oh yes, we just need to understand them and reach across the aisle to make it happen.
GTFO of here with this bullshit. Did you forget the last 20 years of Republican obstruction? Where they vote against their own policies and refuse to compromise.
The only thing to understand at this point is they will always place their party before our county. They will applaud a president who won’t take care of people because they didn’t vote for him.
Cruelty is the response to decades of hate and fear. They chose this shitty path to walk down and now we have to deal with edge lords like you saying, “ahh shucks, you just gotta understand them.”
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Make what happen?
The comment that i replied to is the opposite of a thought… its a desire to belong. If reductionist comments disappear, then we are forced to think.
We dont need people to find a new concise way to say things as simply as possible to repeat and spread it through the internet. Our goal shouldnt be to memeify our ideologies. We should shun zero-effort comments from discussion. We should believe in people to make the right decisions about the world while our discussions focus on truth above all else.
Running our country in a non-partisan way. The fact that the Republicans have chosen to make every single topic from child labor laws, equality, healthcare, education, to living wages a partisan topic is no accident.
It is pure obstructionism based on lies, fear, and hate. Your suggestion is, like so many wanna be edge lords right now, that we just don’t get them. That if we just took the time to understand them then we could communicate our message.
This is simply not true unfortunately. The solution is not trying to understand their ignorance, it is creating an environment we can all thrive in. This has been made near impossible by them purely out of spite. They can and will fuck everyone over if they perceive that whatever group they happen to be told to hate may suffer more.
So while I do agree generalization and over simplification can be a bad thing for discourse, I just have point out the reality that they are simply disingenuous. It really just feels like you are playing into their hand which is why you get pushback.
What fucking motive could possibly excuse abandoning entire states’ worth of people who were devastated by something outside their control?
If you vote for Trump, you’re a dumb piece of shit. It actually is that simple. You may not think you’re dumb or a piece of shit, but at a federal level, you’re both.
Who is talking about voting for trump?
I making a case on behalf of complexity, and that reduction is harmful to truth. And truth is all that matters.
Honestly, in my interactions here, the users don’t even claim it’s greed. In general, at least in all the interactions I’ve had, they legitimately believe all Republicans are strictly evil and just enjoy inflicting pain, with no other motive.
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Prove otherwise.
Every. Single. “Policy” that these ghouls put forth are solely designed to inflict pain, consolidate power in a fascist manner, and extract wealth for their oligarch masters.
I’ve had this discussion enough to realize that no matter what I say, your mind won’t be changed. it’s easier for you to live in a world where people are one-dimensional caricatures of evil. Good luck in the real world with that outlook, genuinely.
If they stand back, and don’t denounce the members of their own party doing theses things, then they are just as bad.
Of course it’s Jim motherfucking Jordan.
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MTG is right there with him. And her state was devastated by Helene.
As a Georgian I can tell you, her state was devastated… and then Helene hit.
Vote out every last one of them.
Just to be clear, only Republicans voted against this.
Inb4 “Why are they only talking about Republican no votes???”
Can’t let the libs have a win! Even at the cost of hundreds or thousands of lives.
Some of you will die, but that’s a price I’m willing to pay.
Don’t worry. Fema will run out of money before the end of hurricane season and Christian Nationalist Mike Johnson has refused to hold any votes giving it additional funding until after the election.
Democrats need to be pushing this out into the public consciousness hard, so when Fema does run out of money and people in dire need can’t get help, they know who to blame.
Yup, just air Mike Johnson saying “I won’t hold votes on this until the election is over”. The ad copy writes itself: Republicans don’t care how many of you or your loved ones die.
I said the same thing. Harris needs to player this on ads everywhere.
One would think the next senate/house election in an area saying, “This guy voted against disaster relief for a disaster that directly affected you” would be an absolute killer, but some of these folks would vote for Lucifer if he had a R next to his name.
And would refuse to vote for Jesus if he ran as a Dem.
