• krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      bluesky is the liberal cousin in a family of commies, also they actually have an active community with it’s own vibe.

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        Bluesky is significantly more populated than Mastodon, they’re at about 10 million.

        Mastodon barely reached 2.5 million then fell off to less than one million as it’s now in an irreversible death spiral.

        Lemmy doesn’t even want to get as big as Mastodon was, much less Bluesky or Reddit or Facebook and Twitter. Lemmy has no chance of sticking around. It’ll just be a little interesting project that once was.

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          An “irreversible death spiral”? Dude… Mastodon has been around for almost 10 years. It was alive and in use before the corruption of Twitter. It may not be big, but it definitely is not in any kind of death spiral. The Mastodon community is as vibrant and healthy has it has ever been.

          I think people tend to forget that the numbers must go up mentality only really applies if you’re trying to squeeze money out of people. A community doesn’t have to conquer the world to be a useful & enjoyable & friendly place.

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            A solution has to replace Twitter or Reddit or Facebook to be relevant to the big picture goal of undermining their influence and retaking control.

            I care about Mastodon’s future success as a vibrant little community about as much as I care about Club Penguin. Not really at all.

            People like you are completely in favor of abandoning the masses and letting the corporations and zealots have them and steer them, you don’t like them and don’t respect them and feel like you can live your whole life without concerning yourself with them as they make up whatever new cultural rules they’re encouraged to, vote in whatever fascist seems most fun, and take away whatever rights they’re advised to.

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              You presume an awful lot about my values and my goals, simply because I told you that Mastodon is not in a death spiral and does not need to take over other social media. To me, that suggests shallow thinking on your part. Your post is insulting and unhelpful.

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                Truly perverse what centralized social media mentality does to a mind😔

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          Bluesky has 30 million users and roughly 25 million active users (as per clearsky.app). Mastodon has 1.3 million active users (boosted by the recent exodus to pixelfed), and 11 million accounts (as per fedidb.org)

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      If there is one irreplaceable content network, it’s youtube. The amount of quality shit you can watch there for free is insane.

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        I hardly use it these days for anything except to follow a number of tabletop RPG/wargame crafters that post videos there, and for that there is just no substitute

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      Yeah, I was more going for centralisation vs decentralisation but i agree.

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    Bluesky is just going to turn into twitter in a few years. How does no one see the issue with one company owning a platform?!

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      Maybe bluesky might take a bit longer, but I don’t see how threads is any better than twitter.

      Just a different asshat running the company

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        Honestly, threads was only popular because of it being fused with instagram, so you would already have an audience and because it was the simplest alternative at the time.

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      You need to have a couple of explicitly anticapitalist thoughts to see the issue with it. So yeah, most won’t see the issue with it.

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      People aren’t thinking that critically. Maybe they need to experience the cycle a couple more times.

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      The issue is size

      If it was federated the same problems would arise, see lemmy

      There needs to be user caps

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        I disagree. Lemmy didn’t work well because it wasn’t designed to scale. With atproto, it is less resource intensive if users aren’t spread out, in contrast to acitivtypub where its the opposite.

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      While you can critisise its decentralisation, it is still in development. There is an effort (https://freeourfeeds.com/, cory doctorow supports it) to host atproto infrastructure outside of bsky’s control.

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        it is not still in development decentralisation on bluesky is vapourware it will never exist it’s just part of the standard EEE cycle it’s marketing they’ll say it didn’t work out and cancel it the second they become the predominant platform

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          You dropped these: ,…

          Punctuation aside, I find that hard to believe, they literally started out as a way to make twitter decentralised after jack dorsey got ✨inspired✨ by a paper on decentralisation. Decentralization on bluesky does exist, they got a lot of flack for banning a trans person who pointed out their head of t&s liked barely legal porn, but she just made her own pds (because bsky is open source) and is now untouchable. All it needs is account moving and to fix up did:plc a bit and it should be decent. I’d reccomend reading @cwebber@social.coop s article about it, points out its strenghts and weaknesses quite well. https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/ https://dustycloud.org/blog/re-re-bluesky-decentralization/ . I myself am annoyed at bluesky simple because I am a big fan of mastodon, but its already won.

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    Unpopular opinion: Bluesky is annoying because if I say anything about queer issues (especially trans ones) I get followed by a bunch of alt-righters and the occasional dude with a kiwifarms avatar or something weird like “we will find you” in their bio. Yeah they’re just bots and they’re easy enough to block but it’s tedious. It’s weird how many people nagged me to join and no one even mentioned that.

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      Yeah, thats not a bluesky problem specifically, this could easily happen to the fediverse, we’re just smaller, and better equipped to stop it since its more mature.

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    I miss the days of filling up my RSS feed from different websites. I hate how consolidated the internet became.

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      I mean, rss is really only dead on the consumer side, every website still seems to have it. Twitter is the only big one that got rid of it.

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        Yea, but it’s not the same making an RSS feed from a social media feed. Websites used to be interesting, they were like the “magazines” or “subreddits” of internet before social media took off.

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        Posting from Lemmy right now! It’s so fucking cool how we can all be on different platforms but still chat it up.

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          What’s the joke, here? We’re all on variations of Lemmy. Bluesky and Mastodon can’t interact with this post.

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            Mastodon can in fact interact with Lemmy. If you get the fediverse link of a lemmy post (the one with the colourful network logo), and you put that into a mastodon search, you can find the post. From there you can ‘favourite’ the post to upvote it, and you can reply to the post to… well, reply to the post.

            Obviously that is not a very practical way to use Lemmy, but it does mean that you can browse an arbitrary Lemmy server without logging in, and then post to it from your unrelated Mastodon account when you want to.

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              Yeah, that only barely sort of counts. You’d need to be able to directly browse, no two stage two page switcharound.

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                You can copy a communities fediverse link and it shows up as a user on mastodon.

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      I just got the screenshot from slashdot. Its the list of their social medias.