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  • Haha, your post that’s “been up for a month” has been up for a week dude. Don’t just lie to me so overtly. Anyone can click your lemmy link and see it says 1w.

    Also, you’re comparing the OP which is for ALL OF Lemmy.world, to the post you linkedbon Reddit, which is for a single Popculture related subreddit? r/Popculture is just one sub my guy. You’re not being serious here. You’re being defensive and making argumentative mistakes.

    There is nothing forbidding you from talking positively about what happened or dunking on Thompson.

    ‘glorifying violence’, and hence against the ToS:

    We are generally aiming to avoid content organizing, glorifying or suggesting to harm people or animals, but we are limiting the scope of our ToS to build the minimum framework inside which we all can have discussions, leaving a broader area for moderators to decide what is and isn’t allowed in the communities they oversee. We trust the moderators judgement and in cases where we see a gross disagreement between moderatos and admins’ criteria we can have a conversation and reach an agreement, as in many cases the decision is case-specific and context matters.

    As they say earlier, they’re not in the US they’re in Western Europea and so trying to pussy foot on free speech.

    The problem is they’re being mealy mouthed cowards still in writing this long verbose post. So it’s obscuratan managereal talk still.

    Just say either: “we are going based on least harm so are allowing for the idea/posts that say killing CEOs doing mass-harm is allowed as long as it’s not written with specific instructions on how to do that”, or “we are against any positive talk of violence to beings/creatures” (which is what they say in part above).

    You know if you’re going to run a platform you should just go read the speech codes of the laws where it is located, then interpret them broadly in proportion to the profits or net value of the site (which is generally how courts approach such things, eg. “you are a small site, with not many users we accept you may have trouble with moderation”). Especially if you’re a user/volunteer run, and distributed site/app, that’s not profit driven. General that means there’s no just and proportional reason or target organization for fines.

    The problem with Lemmy is that they aren’t aiming for anything Reddit hasn’t already. If you’re going to take this “we’re Federated and distributed” approach, you have to consider these things, and even have some plans on changing server locations as soon as you receive a legal threat.

    You want to be something different to Reddit via being Federated? Learn to duck and weave systems of controlbas per your structure. Don’t just become a blander version of Reddit. That’s sad… and for goodness sakes, don’t beat around the bush like this. Make stark definitions so we all know what ball game we’re playing and why.


  • You’re comparing Reddit removing links to his Manifesto, with Lemmy.world removing comments and posts seen as glorifying the righteous actions he allegedly took, or thinking through the morality of it?

    Reddit WASN’T doing that. Lemmy.world WAS.

    Likewise given the mod post we’re commenting on, it’s likely Lemmy.world would ALSO remove links to his manifesto.

    So yes, there is scope to say there’s more free speech on Reddit on this issue.

    It is unclear which instances you’re recommending for better levels of free speech (I asked about Lemmy instances, not discord, a different service entirely).






  • Trump is a different kind of egotist than Hitler, so probably won’t be as bad as Hitler. Still bad though.

    The Nazis had a thing called “working towards the fuhrer” because basically Hitler enjoyed spouting his racist nonsense and only settled as the economy improved.

    Hitler did NOT have four years of the Dems fixing things for him.

    Trump was a draft dodger, born into a life of wealth and privilege.Hitler was a poverty stricken WW1 veteran who later conducted political street brawls.

    Hitler had people like Reinhard Heydrich with a ready plan to kill the jews in a systemic way. Trump has Stephen Miller, Russ Vought, and Pete Hegseth… Along with a smattering of Curtis Yarvin influnced wanna be queens in waiting with wads of cash and suggestions they might need their own little kingdoms to rule.

    Trump was a reality TV star. He wants to be liked. Hates having his ego challenged, and is seldom the smartest person in the room.

    Trump will likely lean more libertarian monachy, possibly trying to get a despotic state in place, backed by whomever he awards a fifedom to, in exchange for large wads of cash (see Marc Andresseen’s plans for Solano California for details).

    Trump will be a brutalist, particularly in terms of deportations. Trump will institute a secret police that acts in an extra judicial way IF there are mass protests against him… He may authorize a lethal use of force as long as he has someone else to blame.

    It is unlikely he would have systematic death camps. I don’t see America getting to that place, or the economy being bad enough to drive it. But mass imprisonment and labour camps? Possibly depends on if/how badly he crashes the economy.

    So that’s pretty close to Hitler, but not quite Hitler. What if Hitler was stupid, and everyone around him came from a softer background and were mostly just greedy little Libertarians and scam artists.

    Best case scenario: Libertarian hell hole, multiple US wars due to economic crash, but ultimately Trump being forced to keep democracy in a very corrupt format (worse than it is now).

    Worse case scenario, end of democracy, totalitarian state, deadly labour camps and political prisoners, permanent state of war, kingdoms with different levels of punishment/control (war lordism). But it will be a stupid nonsensical version of these things, more Idiocracy than Fourth Reich.

    By the way, that’s why the billionaire welfare queens want little kingdoms. They’re afraid, scared libertarians who don’t understand community unless they’re at top calling the shots.