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  • You either misread or ignored what I actually wrote, so maybe give it another look. Specifically, I said the issue with Linux in the early 2000s was lack of software support, not now.

    For the record, there is plenty wrong with the way Linux handles external drives, at least UX wise. For one thing Dolphin mounts them differently than a mount command, which is insane. In the case of Samba shares it also mounts them in an entirely different location, which is extra insane. And the whole thing keeps a distinction between drives included as part of the system and external drives, even if the external drives are fixed, so if you want to add your extra hard drives to the navigation path for software you either have to go messing with fstab (which is both risky and terrible UX for newcomers) or manually click them every time you reboot your PC.

    By comparison on Windows any time you mount a drive it just gets a drive letter and as long as you don’t remove it it stays there. Samba shares, optical media, USB drives, hard drives… doesn’t matter, mount it as a drive letter, navigate to it consistently for the foreseeable future. It’s just better.

    Oh, and when digging for solutions to my issues I found some of the same problems I’m encountering reported as bugs in threads from 2020, with the same workarounds being suggested in threads all the way from then to now. So your definition of “swimmingly” may not be the same as mine.

    And you’re wrong about Linux being less of a hassle now, too, anecdotes aside. Although I’m not surprised, given that your parents probably aren’t trying to game on a modern HDR monitor. “Everything works on a browser” isn’t a good argument for Linux. It’s a good argument for getting your parents a tablet and calling it a day (which, incidentally, is what I did with mine and I haven’t had to troubleshoot it, either. Chrome is Chrome).


  • I did take a look there. I had it working before it broke.

    I disagree that the growing pains are steadily going down, too. Maybe I’m just old, but to me the golden age of Linux “just working” is definitely not now. It was the early days of Ubuntu where the hardware itself was simple but the drivers were already new enough to be fairly standardized.

    The thing that killed Linux getting bigger then was the lack of software support. Who knows where we’d be if those early “easy” distros had better, more hassle-free translation layers available.

    Now? This is a mess by comparison. You have Nvidia with a near-monopoly on GPUs pushing proprietary features as a selling point, crazy multi-GPU laptops with a bunch of custom drivers, weird form factors, touchscreens, pens, arbitrary framerates and resolutions… it’s complete chaos. I’m not surprised Linux struggles to keep up (and Windows buckles under the pressure), but it still makes it harder to swtich.

    Anyway, let this be a note that the handling of third party FSs and external mounted drives in Linux should get much better and Steam should start giving non-SteamOS distros some love, because some of these library bugs are old.



  • Yeah, it’s what I use these days and yeah, that’d be nice. It isn’t the all-in-one package you get with PS, but for casual use in photo editing it’s decent and there are alternatives for some of the other use cases of PS that are closer while still being a fraction of the cost when stacked on top of Affinity.




  • MudMan@fedia.iotolinuxmemes@lemmy.worldLinux is not ready
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    11 hours ago

    Yeah. It was working for me for a while, and then some combination of some drives refusing to mount and some Nvidia driver issues ended up in a state where it doesn’t anymore.

    I tried removing all related Steam packages and starting over but it didn’t quite do it, and I draw the line at reinstalling the entire OS. I could do a more thorough scrub and start over step by step, but man…

    Hence the cranky stuff.



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    Ah, here we go again.

    Gotta keep Windows for work reasons, I’m not rebooting every time I want to play a game and there are terabytes of stuff in there I’m not duplicating.

    So yeah, I’m going to use whatever format works on both (which at this point is MS’s option, I’d take a good ext4 implementation on Windows, too).

    And, you know, if that isn’t an option then maybe Linux isn’t ready? Maybe that cue card had stuff written on both sides, eh?

    Seriously, what’s with the Linux community defaulting to “oh, you tried to do this officially supported thing on Linux? You idiot”. If I’m not supposed to use NTFS on Linux maybe don’t include a driver for it that mounts all my Windows drives out of the box. In the meantime I’ll continue my entirely unreasonable expectation that built-in features of the OS actually work.

    For the record, it is Steam that’s borked. The NTFS driver just randomly sets the dirty flag on the units and forces me to manually clean them up every now and then. I could live with that if it was the only issue.


  • MudMan@fedia.iotomemes@lemmy.worldDammit OneDrive
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    Yeah, that’s the problem with “works well 98% of the time”. It’s fine for a random bug in a videogame where maybe you clip into the floor a bit. When it comes to important files, “losing your work 2% of the time” is what you call not being functional.


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    13 hours ago

    Hah. I just saw this on the back of some other guy berating me for complaining that Steam committed harakiri when trying to get it to acknowledge Steam libraries on NTFS drives. I’ll stop complaining the moment my stuff works.

    But hey, I hear my HDR monitors are supposed to have stopped artifacting out on the latest Nvidia drivers I installed last week, so if I ever get Steam to work again maybe I can give that another try and see if I can scratch that one from my routine.

    Meh, never mind me. I’m just cranky from all the troubleshooting. I really thought I had this down semi-permanently a couple weeks ago.


  • Alright, you made three comments, I’m not responding to each of them. The response is the same anyway.

    For one thing, the idea isn’t to find the “best FS”, it’s to find the best FS to share across a dual boot setup. The common suggestion is, in fact, to stick with NTFS. Which is broadly correct, it does seem to be the better option among those available. For the record, this isn’t about the quality of NTFS anyway, the same issues apply when using other cross-platform FSs, which is why I volunteered the info that I tried other FS options.

    That is not a ridiculous use case, it is not an edge case. Another self-contradicting frequent recommendation among Linux cheerleading places is to start migrating with a dual boot setup and Steam absolutely supports importing pre-existing libraries from mounted external drives. Hell, this is a fundamental piece of functionality on the Steam Deck, even. I haven’t gone off spec for any piece of this. Every part of this setup is supposed to work.

    This isn’t using a cellphone as a hammer and being shocked that it breaks, it’s using it as a camera and finding out all the pictures are out of focus. Using supported features in supported drivers and applications is not user error just because the implementation of the features is buggy.

    This is an exhausting conversation every time. People insist that Linux is finally ready (it is inevitable, someone said) to take over for Windows, but when people bring up legitimate technical issues the answer is consistently that oh, well, this works fine on AMD cards, and HDR isn’t that important anyway and who needs surround sound on a PC anyway, and why would you possibly want to share 100GB game installs across two systems in the first place?

    If your answer is that dual boot setups just aren’t viable, then great, but that means Linux itself is not viable for a whole host of use cases, including mine. I suppose that’s the ultimate takeaway here. Which I find, let me be clear, a shame.







  • MudMan@fedia.iotomemes@lemmy.worldDammit OneDrive
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    21 hours ago

    It is, which is insane, considering the lenghts to which MS goes to integrate OD right at the OS level.

    Either way, as with all office software it’s not generally up to you which one to use and I end up using both. It’s just that OD has a much higher chance to randomly decide the project I’ve been working on for days has never existed.