• TimewornTraveler
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    3 months ago

    Can you talk without using buzzwords and pop-quizzes on irrelevant shit?

    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      After we stop pretending that the morally superior view is one where everyone is equally awful.

      Being sympathetic I get what the picture is trying to convey. Really ask yourself if different is worse or is it just different.

      Being realistic it smells of in every conflict everyone involved is evil. And that simply is not always true. Giving a real world example is the invasion of the Ukraine. There is no both sides in this. One is a democracy the other is a dictatorship. One is defending their homeland and the other is invading. One of it loses is looking at genocide and the other if it loses has some egg on their face. They are not the same.

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        3 months ago

        So far all you’ve figured out is that this meme must not be about Ukraine then! And yet you’re still talking about it. You only want to disagree. That’s why you’re posting. That’s why you’re responding to me. That’s why you’re here. You want to disagree with shit to feel intellectually superior, and the hilarious part is that you are disagreeing with something on the grounds that they just a make a ploy at intellectual superiority! And by the way, calling this “enlightened centrism” just for the purposes of disagreeing with it is actually making a strawman, not whatever that other comment was.

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            3 months ago

            Please point to literally anyone in this thread that is defending Putin or trying to say it’s about “both sides” in that war specifically.

            Here, I can do it. I can do the magical thing that you want:

            Putin bad. Russian invasion of Ukraine bad.

            I’ll go even further:

            Netanyahu bad. Palestinian genocide bad.

            Also, and you’ll be shocked to hear that multiple things can be true at the same time:

            Xenophobia bad.

            Is that… what you wanted?

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                3 months ago

                Holy shit, you read the first sentence and just fired that off, didn’t you?

                You have to keep reading.

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                    3 months ago

                    “No.” what? “No.” you won’t keep reading beyond the first sentence, or “No.” you didn’t fire that off after only reading the first sentence? Those are contradictory.

                    But I’m not going to play dumb. I know your terse responses are to signal that you aren’t taking me seriously and you’re treating my words with contempt. I get it.

                    But the weird thing is that you’re all over this thread challenging people to disavow putin, and the moment somebody does, you won’t even acknowledge it. Is that because you put so much stock in the idea that we’re enlightened centrists that you didn’t actually bother to form a coherent thought beyond that?