• vividspecter
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    3 months ago

    This is demonstrably dangerous at any kind of lot entry or any time cars can traverse the sidewalk path, because there should not be vehicle traffic moving in a different direction.

    It depends on the sidewalks. They should be on a different grade, and separated from the road by some distance. Although part of the problem is that SUVs jump kerbs more easily, and this type of “car” has become dominant in recent years.

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      3 months ago

      While “it depends,” overall we have undeniable statistical data that a km on a sidewalk is on average more dangerous than a km on the road.

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      3 months ago

      They should be on a different grade

      This doesn’t apply to parking entrances or other areas where cars are expected to cross the sidewalk, which is the specific portion of that point.

      And the bigger point in my view is pedestrians. I don’t believe that pedestrians should need to deal with bikers on the sidewalk. It’s called a sidewalk for a reason. Walk the bike.

      I understand bikers being upset about unsafe road conditions, but lessening safety of sidewalks for pedestrians is not the answer.

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        3 months ago

        All of these issues are systemic issues and a failure of infrastructure. It’s fine on an individual level to say that riding on footpaths isn’t ideal, but ultimately people are going to do it no matter how much you call them out for it, if they feel it’s the safer option than riding on the road. So if you don’t give people a safe option to ride their bikes, then they are going to have to pick between multiple unsafe options, which is not ideal when you are trying to drive an uptake in cycling. And the most important way to make cycling and walking safer, is to increase their popularity, because it means there are less cars, and cars are a much more serious threat to pedestrians.

        Anyway, we are probably talking past each other a bit. I think that in the end you are talking about sensible individual choices (which is fine), but I feel that the majority of efforts and discussion need to be directed at governments if we want to make cycling so safe that even a 5 year can ride around unsupervised.