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  • areyouevenreal
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    7 months ago

    Linux doesn’t have to be high maintenance though. Definitely not more high maintenance than Windows for basic use cases.

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      7 months ago

      It doesn’t have to, but for most users on the level of teens/kids it is. You wanna do something in windows? Done. Just done. No problems whatsoever, most devs bend over backwards for compatibility. Meanwhile finding shit for linux is pain. Most things you heard of are not even there. You have to go through weird apps just to run things you’re used to, and meanwhile OS asks weird questions like which graphic driver to install,

      Linux changed a whole lot from the time I was introduced to it, and it became reaaaaally close to being as easy to use as windows. Hell, I even was considering switching to Mint some time ago ( Then bricked my boot. Thrice. And it’s not fault of Linux. I think. ). I like how it looks and feels, and with proton and stuff it’s best time to do so but it still isn’t on the same level of being non-problematic as windows.

      Edit: Cannot talk about Win 11. Touched it once. If I need to upgrade, fuck that, going linux. Not worth it. At all.

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        7 months ago

        Not really most detect the graphics card automatically, unless you are on Nvidia in which case you probably built the thing anyway or are a PC gamer which would know that anyway.

        Windows isn’t as easy to use and tends to break if given to the computer illiterate from viruses, not doing updates, not rebooting, and so on. I’ve dealt with these kinds of people, they are better off with Linux Mint, ChromeOS, or similar as it doesn’t have these issues. If you are talking about mac then yeah it’s easier, you have an argument there. I would point out as well that most of the easy to use devices run Linux, like Android and ChromeOS devices.

        Windows 11 is the new default, so that’s what we are comparing to here.

        Dual boots on a single drive and EFI partition are expected to break at this point. This is because Microsoft like to overwrite the Linux boot loader. You should use a separate drive or at least a different EFI partition. REFIND can be helpful too. Dual boots have always been an advanced use case though.

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          7 months ago

          Most people who don’t know their stuff uses nvidia. Happily slowly changing, but nvidia is everywhere, at least where I live. And people who don’t know stuff still hold onto “green good, red hot and bad”.

          How do you break Windows except by downloading malware? It literally hides, or rather masquarades it’s settings from you and makes it hard to do anything bad to it. My grandpa uses Windows - I thought about introducing him to linux to breathe second life into his PC but…I doubt he would be able to do much with it. I cede point towards Android.

          How is Win 11 new default? I may be out of the loop, but is it now majorly used? If so, I cede all because the only time I tried to use it, goddamn first-time registration died on me. Like, fully. Unfixable. What a mess.

          And yeah, again, the boot bricking isn’t on linux it’s just me being an idiot. Also I love how fast you picked up how I broke the boot.

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            Most people who don’t know their stuff uses nvidia. Happily slowly changing, but nvidia is everywhere, at least where I live. And people who don’t know stuff still hold onto “green good, red hot and bad”.

            Every pre-built machine I have seen using Nvidia has it written on the front. Including the laptop I am using now. It works fine on Linux btw, provided you grab the right ISO.

            Windows 11 installs itself automatically on newer machines as it did on my parents laptop, nags you if you refuse. Same way Windows 10 did when it came out. It comes with pretty much every new machine too. That’s what I mean by it’s the default. Windows 10 support also ends next year. You are severely out of the loop if you haven’t noticed, or you have an unsupported machine.

            As for Windows breaking that’s what eventually made me switch to Linux again, Windows 11 taskbar decided to stop working on two different machines.

            On Linux you need root permission to do much damage besides deleting files. You can create a non-root account for someone, or just tell them not do anything that prompts them for a password. There are few places where you can break something from a GUI in Linux, and those are things like disk managers that are equally dangerous on Windows. On Windows you can go to device manager and straight up disable devices. I’ve seen someone do that with their WiFi card. If it’s still an issue tell them to use Chrome OS or another immutable Linux. On those systems the OS partition is read only with snapshots in place. Those are almost impossible to fuck up short of reformatting your PC.