• @dalekcaan
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    1121 days ago

    I wouldn’t say the NCR is bad per se. They seem misguided, and there are definitely bad people in it, but most of them do seem to be trying to make the Mojave a better place.

    I don’t buy the game trying to tell me Caesar’s justified, though. Traders saying “they keep the raiders at bay,” as if they’re not doing just as much raping and murdering as the raiders.

    The only faction I actually like is the Followers of the Apocalypse. They seem like the only ones trying to make things better without serving their own agenda. It’s too bad you can’t do more for them.

    • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      I felt like the game wasn’t trying to say that Caesar was justified. He kept the raiders at bay but was generally worse to live under

      • The Legion are raiders. They are just what happens when a raider gang gets big enough, they become a state/kingdom/empire, and the smaller tribal identities are devoured and before you know you it you’re on the path to a larger national identity.

    • @Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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      320 days ago

      The game isn’t saying the Legion is justified, but is believable as a savage force.

      • @dalekcaan
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        220 days ago

        Yeah, sorry, I didn’t word that well. The game makes it clear that the legion is the bad guy, I just mean the NPCs who defend the legion don’t make a very good case

        • @Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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          How could they? The Legion is a fascist slave army, and Caesar misunderstands Hegel and misues the Dialectic. The entire nation is built on a sham, which is obvious to the player, but systemically reinforced upon the NPCs. Thus, it is believable while being undoubtedly wrong.