If You Hate Density, Maybe Don’t Live in A City
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When you argue for housing reform to legalize denser development in our cities, you quickly learn that some people hate density. Like, really hate density, w...

When you argue for housing reform to legalize denser development in our cities, you quickly learn that some people hate density. Like, really hate density, with visceral disgust and contempt for any development pattern that involves buildings being tall or close together.

  • @jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
    3•1 month ago

    People do not live in Downtown Toronto. It is that dense because it is the entire country’s financial district. Residential developments cannot pay the premium demanded, it is all office towers. The tiny minority of Torontonians who can afford to and choose to live there are apparently willing to put up with that.

    Residential density looks more like Montreal’s walkup residential buildings.

    Even if you could point out an example of density done poorly, you would have to ignore all the examples of density done well for it to be meaningful.

    • @masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
      -3•1 month ago

      People do not live in Downtown Toronto.

      LMFAO, don’t look at a census my guy.

      Residential density looks more like Montreal’s walkup residential buildings.

      I love those buildings, but lol no, not in Toronto it doesn’t, unless you can point me to all the developers building Montreal style walkups instead of 60 story glass rectangles? Seriously, go ahead and link me to how many Montreal style walkup units are under construction right now. 1? 0? Now look out your window and you’ll count how many glass rectangles you see under construction.

      Even if you could point out an example of density done poorly, you would have to ignore all the examples of density done well for it to be meaningful.

      Not only did I already, but it is flat out laughable that you can’t think of an example of density done badly. On top of that, no, one good example of density doesn’t mean that density is good, all I have to show is that the density being actually built here is shitty and unpleasant and that proves that the density being built here is shitty and unpleasant. It’s not complicated.

      Here’s to the 4 story multiplex law 🍻, though it’s still a race to the bottom. On average if you were in the 50th percentile of income 30 years ago, you would be able to own a house with a backyard and greenspace, today, you can own a tiny condo with no outdoor access, next to a park that’s 3m square with soil about 6in deep. It is more sustainable overall, but a shittier quality of life for individuals. We of course, have the land to have both, but that would have required building more transit and real cities in the region 20 years ago instead of just continuously investing in Toronto and nowhere else.