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    Definitely need some stickers, at least, for this.

    The repulsive Picard picture on the Enterprise D, coupled with the miniscule size, leaves me wondering how it could even be worth the €150 sale price, let alone €199.95 RRP.

    At least with the Lego Millenium Falcon you get some fucking mass and intricacy for your money.

    The Star Trek ships should be bigger and cost more, or cheaper and cost less. Not the same amount for far, far less.

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      Edit: I misunderstood the sets the above post was referring to.

      Definitely need some stickers, at least, for this.
      the miniscule size
      Lego Millenium Falcon

      I’m about 80% sure you are being sarcastic at this point. Just to be sure:

      1. The BlueBrixx sets print unique design elements like names, numbers, coloured lines directly onto the bricks. LEGO is known for adding packs of cheap stickers for most of that.
      2. The ready room picture is, afaik, one of the more iconic objects associated with Picard.
      3. The painting is 1m x 0.5m with some depth.
      4. The Lego Millennium Falcon has ~2.5 as many pieces for ~4.5 as high a price. (Using the regular price, which is €189.95, btw, ten less than you wrote.)
      5. Intricate details I cannot judge from the pictures. I suppose that comparing a painting set to a ship that’s several times as expensive may also not be the easiest to compare, even in person.

      The Star Trek ships should be bigger and cost more, or cheaper and cost less. Not the same amount for far, far less.

      That’s, like, your opinion. Personally, I think €850 for a single set is a bit much. I’d rather have 5 smaller sets for that price. That said, Bluebrixx does plenty of ships that are “cheaper and cost less”, down to tiny sets for ~€10 each.

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        The BlueBrixx sets print unique design elements like names, numbers, coloured lines directly onto the bricks. LEGO is known for adding packs of cheap stickers for most of that.

        There’s nothing much wrong with stickers, certainly for text and such.

        The ready room picture is, afaik, one of the more iconic objects associated with Picard.

        I’m talking about the quality of the drawing on the box. It’s Picard, but it looks a bit like a knock off.

        The painting is 1m x 0.5m with some depth.

        Huh? What painting? The dimensions of the model are 554 x 400 x 179 mm. Half a metre long doesn’t seem like much for a big, iconic starship.

        Looking at it, there have been a few different versions of the Lego Falcon. The big one is €850 euros, and measures 83cm by 60cm with 7541 pieces. This uses Lego Technic parts and is pretty complex on the exterior. The smaller, similarly priced Falcon is €169.99, measures 47cm by and has 1330 pieces.

        Neither model uses stickers, the different coloured pieces give it its texture. They also have moving parts, blasters that fire, and some level of internals eg ship cabins (particularly with the cheaper one).

        The Falcon is a smaller ship, so it stands to reason the ship should be smaller and simpler. Yet the Enterprise D is visually and physically much more boring. It’s a display model, building is only a small part of it, but it isn’t really that interesting to look at. I would have liked it to be bigger and include a bridge, at least. In the video, they point at where Ten Forward is, but really there’s nothing there.

        The Lego Millennium Falcon has ~2.5 as many pieces for ~4.5 as high a price. (Using the regular price, which is €189.95, btw, ten less than you wrote.)

        The price I quoted (€150 sale and €200 RRP) are literally the prices on the BlueBrixx website you linked. The small Lego Falcon is cheaper at RRP, and while it has fewer pieces it still looks far more fun.

        Intricate details I cannot judge from the pictures. I suppose that comparing a painting set to a ship that’s several times as expensive may also not be the easiest to compare, even in person.

        Huh? What painting? There’s just a packet of bricks that get put together.

        That’s, like, your opinion. Personally, I think €850 for a single set is a bit much. I’d rather have 5 smaller sets for that price. That said, Bluebrixx does plenty of ships that are “cheaper and cost less”, down to tiny sets for ~€10 each.

        I agree, €850 is a lot. Lego are definitely exploiting the brands to charge that much. However, this is an iconic set, I would expect the option of something similar for the Enterprise D - maybe not quite as expensive, but bigger and bolder than what they have here.

        Like I say, if it was a little bigger and had some better display of internals, that would be better.

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          Lol, I complete misread part of your first post.

          The repulsive Picard picture on the Enterprise D,

          Looking at the catalogue, the first is “Picard ready room painting”, and I somehow mixed the two together. Complete reading comprehension failure on my part. All the other erroneous points in my post followed from that. Sorry!


          That said, the whole thing still seems to be an issue of “your mileage may vary”. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen the image of Picard on some other official Star Trek stuff at well. (DVD Box art?) I wouldn’t describe it as “repulsive”.

          Comparing https://www.lego.com/en-de/product/millennium-falcon-75257 and https://www.bluebrixx.com/en/star-trek/104184/Star-Trek-USS-Enterprise-NCC-1701-D-BlueBrixx-Pro :

          The Star Trek looks like the original. I don’t think a bridge would make sense given the scale. If you look at the video, every single dot is a room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IwxDO2Lrnk

          I’d say there are plenty of details, and ~1.5 as many parts to represent as many features as possible on the model. It doesn’t have any play features, as far as I can tell, but I don’t think that was the goal either. Unlike the LEGO set, it’s a straight-up display model, and it works quite well for that, by my estimate. Again, this is just personal opinion. Everyone should judge for themselves what they like.

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            Lol, no worries.

            I agree with your comments on the scale, and this is definitely a more “serious” model so shouldn’t have play features as such. I think overall though Lego and similar products just aren’t really quite right for that - particularly with Star Trek ships, which have smooth curves and contradict with blocky structures.

            I still think it would look better a little bigger, with some actual windows and scaled internals.