I’m not in America so I don’t know how bad the terms are stolen there, so it’s been usually clear that libs are pretty much anti-capitalism and can be usually agreed with (just too moderate methods). Then “classic liberals”, “neoliberals” and “libertarians” are the fascist fucks whose liberties only apply to their in-group and they’ve taken that name as a cover.
Fair enough. I’ve literally never met a liberal who didn’t somehow want to protect capitalist infrastructure, so this is also a new concept for me. If you have any texts about this, I’d love to read up on it. My perspective is bound to be US-centric because that’s where I live, unfortunately.
This could be totally anecdotal (I need to check if there’s literature); in Europe right-wingers vehemently hate libs and use the term as a slur at the mildest (from the moderates) for even suggesting capitalism has failed. And of course the radical reactionaries put libs on the same extermination list as minorities, communists, anarchists etc.
Oh conservatives do the same thing here, which creates the illusion for many people that the Democrats are leftist. They do the same thing in Canada. Ironically, our Democrats are always compromising with Republicans, so there’s ultimately little difference between the two parties.
Cool, I see.
I’m not in America so I don’t know how bad the terms are stolen there, so it’s been usually clear that libs are pretty much anti-capitalism and can be usually agreed with (just too moderate methods). Then “classic liberals”, “neoliberals” and “libertarians” are the fascist fucks whose liberties only apply to their in-group and they’ve taken that name as a cover.
Fair enough. I’ve literally never met a liberal who didn’t somehow want to protect capitalist infrastructure, so this is also a new concept for me. If you have any texts about this, I’d love to read up on it. My perspective is bound to be US-centric because that’s where I live, unfortunately.
This could be totally anecdotal (I need to check if there’s literature); in Europe right-wingers vehemently hate libs and use the term as a slur at the mildest (from the moderates) for even suggesting capitalism has failed. And of course the radical reactionaries put libs on the same extermination list as minorities, communists, anarchists etc.
Oh conservatives do the same thing here, which creates the illusion for many people that the Democrats are leftist. They do the same thing in Canada. Ironically, our Democrats are always compromising with Republicans, so there’s ultimately little difference between the two parties.