Unfortunately for Lemmys a professor of economics knows more about the economy than they do. He is making the housing market healthier and they don’t like that.
If you’re speaking about the USA in 2008 that’s a bad example compared to Argentina here, yes?
I was trying to show an obvious example of how decreasing house prices can be a bad thing. It’s an similar example, it is not the same. I was hoping to show you how just because something on the surface appears to be good it can be bad.
You can use that throwaway line, but if you are making an argument, you have to defend it.
“That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” (Christopher Hitchens).
What a horrific misuse of that quote. I’m talking about economy theory that has been well studied. Evolution doesn’t need to be proved every time it is mentioned why does this? At this point you need to assert against general consensus.
Okay right. With price caps total homes, now and in the future for rentals added to ownership decrease. This can put pressure on prices to rise overall for rentals and for home ownership.
Where did all the renters go that no longer could rent because the landlords removed so many units from rental markets? They have to live somewhere. Where?
Parents, friends, the street, foreign countries some of them would have gotten a home certainly but not all. At this point you will really need to be digging into the data and things get complicated and hard to count exactly.
I see your confusion now. The market is not over saturated, that’s the mistake you are making in your thinking. It’s a supply and demand curve. More people would rent if it became cheaper when it becomes more expensive less people do. Frankly it is as simple as that. Less people get to live where and how they want as cheap as they would like that’s why rent control is so awful. This effect can put a similar effect on home ownership. People that can, then buy when they don’t want to at a price they aren’t happy with in a location they don’t want. Some people just can’t afford to buy a house when they once could. It just fucks over the whole market and pretty much everyone is less happy.
You seem interested in it. Go investigate. No point arguing with some random guy on a forum, go look at some quality content.
Not all rentals will become purchased homes. From a people living in it point of view homes disappear off the market. The problem also gets worse and worst over time, assuming the population of the city is increasing.
I’m tired I’m come back later and re read everything and see if I need to explain anything better then.
I’m tired I’m come back later and re read everything and see if I need to explain anything better then.
No need. Read @Shardikprime@lemmy.world 's explanation. I got the missing piece which explains it (and its not even close to anything you were talking about).
I got the answer to my original question of “why home ownership didn’t increase when property values fell?”.
Its this:
“Little problem is that mortgages have been absent in anything but paper so Argentines have not been able to acquire property or housing with ease since years ago”
… and this…
“Last time mortgages were available, it was in 2017/2018.”
Would-be home buyers couldn’t get mortgages because banks wouldn’t lend to anyone. Full stop.
You and I were trying to apply normal market conditions that exist in the USA. Instead I took the approach of asking how Argentinians house themselves and Shardikprime seems to have the regional knowledge both you and I were missing.
No that was sarcasm are you ESL?
Unfortunately for Lemmys a professor of economics knows more about the economy than they do. He is making the housing market healthier and they don’t like that.
I was trying to show an obvious example of how decreasing house prices can be a bad thing. It’s an similar example, it is not the same. I was hoping to show you how just because something on the surface appears to be good it can be bad.
What a horrific misuse of that quote. I’m talking about economy theory that has been well studied. Evolution doesn’t need to be proved every time it is mentioned why does this? At this point you need to assert against general consensus.
Okay right. With price caps total homes, now and in the future for rentals added to ownership decrease. This can put pressure on prices to rise overall for rentals and for home ownership.
Parents, friends, the street, foreign countries some of them would have gotten a home certainly but not all. At this point you will really need to be digging into the data and things get complicated and hard to count exactly.
I see your confusion now. The market is not over saturated, that’s the mistake you are making in your thinking. It’s a supply and demand curve. More people would rent if it became cheaper when it becomes more expensive less people do. Frankly it is as simple as that. Less people get to live where and how they want as cheap as they would like that’s why rent control is so awful. This effect can put a similar effect on home ownership. People that can, then buy when they don’t want to at a price they aren’t happy with in a location they don’t want. Some people just can’t afford to buy a house when they once could. It just fucks over the whole market and pretty much everyone is less happy.
You seem interested in it. Go investigate. No point arguing with some random guy on a forum, go look at some quality content.
Not all rentals will become purchased homes. From a people living in it point of view homes disappear off the market. The problem also gets worse and worst over time, assuming the population of the city is increasing.
I’m tired I’m come back later and re read everything and see if I need to explain anything better then.
No need. Read @Shardikprime@lemmy.world 's explanation. I got the missing piece which explains it (and its not even close to anything you were talking about).
I got the answer to my original question of “why home ownership didn’t increase when property values fell?”.
Its this:
“Little problem is that mortgages have been absent in anything but paper so Argentines have not been able to acquire property or housing with ease since years ago”
… and this…
“Last time mortgages were available, it was in 2017/2018.”
Would-be home buyers couldn’t get mortgages because banks wouldn’t lend to anyone. Full stop.
You and I were trying to apply normal market conditions that exist in the USA. Instead I took the approach of asking how Argentinians house themselves and Shardikprime seems to have the regional knowledge both you and I were missing.