Young Americans are piling the blame for their student debt balances on conservatives, according to a poll by Generation Lab provided exclusively to Axios.

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    These entitled suckers borrowed more money than they were able to pay back. All for the post education scam. A lot of them went in and got useless degrees to pursue passion projects instead of getting into lucrative careers. As a working class worker I dissent the idea that my tax dollars should pay for people who bit off more than they can chew.

    because… reasons. Can’t let those “libs” ever enact something that is popular, fair, legal, and

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      Did you accept any government assistance during covid? Do you have kids?

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        I worked overtime hours all through COVID. The stimulus money that landed I had no control over. Socialist move made by Trump.

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            I bet their employer accepted PPP money and got it forgiven.

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            No. At least not yet. It’s still in a savings account towards a homestead I am planning on planting in the near future.

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            I donated 100 bucks to a single mother who was struggling during the Pandemic. I donated some of it to the World Wildlife Fund to sponsor an animal. I saved the rest for a homestead I am planning on planting soon.

            That is not important though. It’s my money. I paid for it. My taxes went into the pot. I have an entitlement to the stimulus money. No I do not agree with the stimulus at face value. But the government did ruin ppls lives and forcibly shut down small businesses entrepreneurs while giving big box store conglomerations immunity. It was fucked up. So the stimulus is somewhat justified.

            The stimulus and college dorks who took out a loan willingly are not the same.

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              I added money to that pot you speak of. I got nothing back. And you know what, I hope you enjoy it. Now stop being a dick about others getting a hand up.

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                Nah I always paid off my own loans. My credit is good all my cards get paid off in a timely and efficient fashion. I’ve paid off vehicles too.

                Fuck those ppl who want me to pay for their bad financial habits.

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      I mean, sure. A lot of people took out more than they should have. A lot of people who barely had left home to pursue a higher education on the promises of previous generations who nonstop said “you must go to college by any means necessary if you wish to have a successful career.”

      Well, they did as they were told, and instead of the promising career and success prospects, they’re struggling to make ends meet because oh hey good luck finding a career if they didn’t go with one of the “good” degrees and now they’re just as well off as if they didn’t go at all, and now they’re having to deal with student loans.

      Hmm…no wonder why they were counting on that relief.

      I’m one of the lucky ones. I went to college, didn’t even finish and came out with a fantastic career. Not everyone was so lucky. But we were all told the same thing. Some people got lucky, like me. Some people were able to go on mommy and daddy’s dollar. Some others still had to find a way to cover the cost, attendee the classes, got the degree and instead of the supposed good life they were promised, they’re getting fucked over instead.

      If you buy a car on a loan and it breaks down on your first day to a new job a few days after buying it, shouldn’t you be made whole? Because that’s effectively the same situation.

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        If the car breaks down you can just not pay for it and they can repo it for non-payment. After that they can’t do shit especially if you file bankruptcy.

        There’s no discharging student loans. That shit will follow you to your grave.

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        There’s already grants and donations for college kids to pay for school. It’s not wealthy people’s job to keep people from making stupid life choices.

        There are two mutual parties who sign a loan and it’s a legally binding document. These socialist moves will end up hurting the working class like they always do.

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      What a dumb take. Our labor force demands specialization and training through upper education. From early age all kids are being told to go to college. Every other country helps build a skilled labor force, but in the US it’s a luxury reserved for those who can afford it. This is something we all benefit from (doctors, architects, nurses). Yet here you are, pushing down on those who seek out this path.

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        Nah. I simply don’t care for paying for other’s college. These people who want me to pay their bills are not the cream of the crop. They’re not doctors, lawyers, or any specialized skilled labor.

        Nobody is entitled to money. You make a deal and money is exchanged. It’s that simple. In this case someone who borrowed more than they could pay back now wants others who never even went to college to work off their debts.

        It’s not fair to those without skin in the game.

        There’s no shortage of ppl who graduate college. Maybe the art degree, or lesbian dance theory wasn’t a good financial decision.

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          That’s a very naive outlook and I see you drank the Kool aid. Every day, you yourself benefit from things you did not pay for. Youll screech “sure I do! Muh taxes” but that is so far from the truth. The moment you said “lesbian dance theory” it’s clear your opinion was formed for you by others and you’re not really basing this on much personal evaluation.

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            Yeah I drank the Kool aid alright. I did not go to College. I worked working class jobs all my life. Saved my money, paid off all my loans, and now am shopping for 10 acres of Oklahoma land for a homestead where I’ll start farming part time while holding down a full time job. I’ll sell sheep wool.

            I’m not some whiny bitch who wants the government to be a welfare fairy because they can’t pay back a loan. I’ve bought cars. I’ve paid off long term investments pal.

            The fruit of my labor came from calloused hands and work.

            Did you know that term drinking the Kool aid came from the Jim Jones socialist cult right? LoL you can’t make this stuff up.

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              You drank the Kool aid because you still firmly believe you don’t stand on the shoulders of those who came before you and developed everything you use on a daily basis: the roads you drive on, the food you eat, etc. Unless you built your own internet and grew everything you eat, you’re just one of us and your opinion of rugged individualism go get it was formed for you by others as much as you pretend to take license for all your great achievements. You have no original thoughts.

              Also, I don’t care for socialism, Im a capitalist. The expression is just that, an expression. Fucks sake Have an original thought besides “socialism bad amirite”.

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                You think my beverage of choice is Kool Aid because you equate my rugged individualism and hatred of being forced to pay for shit I personally don’t use for not endorsing collectivism for things I do actually use and am entitled to.

                I will never go to school. Can’t afford it. Don’t have the brain power. It’s just a waste of my hard earned money.

                I’m entitled to use the roads because the state takes taxes out of my check to maintain them. I voluntarily pay lottery tickets that also go towards roads and education. None of that would mean anything if I didn’t pay for gas, insurance, tags, through work.

                You see… All that infrastructure means jack all if I’m some derelict on welfare not using it. If I just smoked weed all day, gamed, and feasted on snacks all that collectivist infrastructure doesn’t benefit me at all.

                It’s only because of my rugged individualism and work ethic that I get to use what’s there. The fridge cannot keep my koolaid under the room temperature if I cannot pay the electric. The electric can’t be paid unless I work. Everything in life relies on my own self determination.

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                  Didn’t I anticipate the “I pay my taxes argument” a few posts back? All the taxes you will ever pay will not account for a percentage of a fraction of the things you benefit from on a daily basis. You give yourself so much credit without realizing how much you enjoy the comforts of modern society: internet, cell phones, modern medicine. All these things were possible because someone went to get specialized learning. Not everyone has to go to university, but we all benefit when our society grows and develops new technologies. Go live in Somalia and make your own internet and antibiotics.

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                    Once again you are wrong.

                    I don’t equate privately acquired loans through mutual agreement between two parties with public infrastructure paid for by collectivism.

                    I’m not taking credit for fixing the roads. If I got hired by a construction crew to pave the roads maybe I could? LoL

                    Absolute individualism and absolute collectivism cannot exist in their own separate worlds. Both are nessesary.

                    As for the college loans. People’s private education funded through private means is no consequence to me. I should not have to pay for it. Bottom line.

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        No. It wouldn’t of been necessary if governors didn’t have a knee jerk reaction to shut everything down and ruin private enterprise. People lost everything. I personally know at least three small business owners who closed permanently because the authoritarian lockdown measures were not compatible with their business model.

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          Ah yes, let’s sacrifice grandma because it’s what the economy would want. Oh but wait, let me guess the next rebuttal “it was just a cold”.