• volodya_ilich
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    23 days ago

    If you’re rooting for strictly one side or the other, you’re probably wrong

    The centrist take here really doesn’t work, it’s not a complicated problem. The Israeli state has been illegally settling land that already belonged to Palestinian citizens (illegally according to the UN, not to my ass), and Hamas spawned as a consequence of the people being forcibly removed under threat of violence. Israel is an apartheid settler state, and you may or may not agree with Hamas but the fact is that they’re an expected reaction to this.

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        Attacking civilians is always wrong, but it’s the expected consequence after decades of oppression and apartheid. The french revolution killed plenty of civilians, and I’m sure many of the instances were unjust, but when people revolt from oppression these things are bound to happen. The cure isn’t to murder more people, it’s to stop the oppression.

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          23 days ago

          but it’s the expected consequence

          What was the expected consequence after October 7th?

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            People who knew about the topic indeed expected the murderous state of Israel to respond extremely violently. It’s just the one who has the upper hand militarily and economically, and it chooses to perpetuate the cycle of violence and occupation.

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              to respond extremely violently

              Responding to extreme violence, yes.

              You can’t really point to one side here and say “they started it”.

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                I actually can point to the side who started it. The side who started it is the one which established a colonial, settler, ethnonationalist state in land that was previously inhabited by other people which were forcefully removed. And that side is Israel.

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            If war crimes, mass murder and genocidal sentiments are something to be expected of a country you probably shouldnt be sending them military hardware