• boredtortoise
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    2 days ago

    It’s a real wonder why people with less possibilities can become influenced by crime, regardless of birthplace, and still countries push new residents into those situations

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      2 days ago

      You mean bringing in people like that.

      A country could you know. Not bring them in. Issue is solved then.

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        1 day ago

        You mean bringing in people like that.

        There is so much in this sentence to unpack im not sure where to begin.

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          1 day ago

          Are you saying they magically become different people once they are in the country?

          A country can choose to let that person in or not.

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            19 hours ago

            Are you saying they magically become different people once they are in the country?

            Do you honestly believe people think that?

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        2 days ago

        Not bring who in? What’s the deciding factor, precogs evaluating if someone does crime in the future? Not bring people who are born there and already stuck in lower classes. The problems don’t care about immigration, it’s the bourgeoisie waging class warfare.

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          2 days ago

          Well lots of countries have immigration requirements or points based systems. So it is obvious that countries already use means to choose which immigrants it wants.

          This just needs expansion. You look at immigrants or children of immigrants that commit more crime than locals or contribute less than locals and you don’t bring them in. Because bringing them in makes the country worse.

          It’s obviously an average but that is all immigration requirements are.

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            2 days ago

            That doesn’t make sense, a new immigrant is in no way responsible for someone else’s crime

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              2 days ago

              Why don’t they just let anyone in they? Why have rules on which people are allowed to immigrate and which aren’t?

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            1 day ago

            All those African colonies that France ruled for centuries; immigrants from those countries should be denied, just because they are Black immigrants?

            • Kaboom@reddthat.com
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              21 hours ago

              Not becayse theyre black, but because theres simply too many immigrants. A country can only handle so much.

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                2 days ago

                So you are moving to a new street, but suddenly it’s not allowed because someone else maybe did something. You don’t know why, what, who, but your rights have been lessened. That’s how

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                  2 days ago

                  Its not a right. Its not “a new street”, its a country.

                  And to continue your metaphor, theres literally not enough houses on the street.

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                    2 days ago

                    There’s plenty of houses. Street or city or country, it doesn’t matter. There’s no valid reason to prevent innocent individuals from choosing any of them. Sounds like a right, why wouldn’t it be