• JimSamtanko
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    3 days ago

    They’re essentially just disposable social justice advocates. They bitch and moan during election years then banish right after only to return as victims of their own inability to do the actual work to net the change they demanded.

    This happens every election.

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      3 days ago

      See, doing the work, I see a lot of people pushing back online saying “but are you going to vote for my candidate for the promise of maybe one day doing the work you’re doing”? Like, genuinely, I’ve been being asked if I’m voting for Biden in 2024 for years, as if the only thing that matters is the election. Caring about a very specific election for four years is not all that distinguishable from only caring once every four years. And when the alternative political power structures try to express what little political power they have, the establishment runs back to “but if you don’t vote for us regardless of what we do, the other guys will be worse”. Even when there are examples of doing something as “awful” and “dangerous” as withholding an endorsement in an election year can be shown to be actually effective and get actual good work done (see: the UAW holding off on endorsing Biden until he actually went to bat for them and helped get landmark contracts passed). Should we considet the Biden or Bust crew that’s been beating the drum the past four years just as disposable and unable to effect change they demand?

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        3 days ago

        Okay… either purposefully or not- you’re twisting the topic into something else.

        If you’re voting- good. If you’re not, you’re part of the problem. It isn’t “Biden or Bust” it’s “Democracy or Bust” and it’s late enough in the game that everyone knows this. I’m not going to argue the nuance of the situation. We’re past that. If you want the change you so badly desire, maybe do the work between elections- and if you have been, maybe stand with us against those that are using your work to represent the ideology that not voting nets change.

        Because it’s undermining everything you’ve done.

        I’m done discussing this.