• HonkyTonkWoman
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    27 days ago

    Nobody’s saying don’t pay them more money. You’re just refusing to acknowledge that this is not an hourly based job, it is a performance based job.

    If you take a performance based job, & you either underperform or don’t perform, you aren’t getting paid.

    If you want more money for your performance, you negotiate a rate based on each performance, not how long each performance takes.

    If you go under contract, you’ve agreed to the terms of that contract. These people agreed to this contract you’re so perplexed by.

    You have the privilege of going to work each day & getting paid an agreed upon amount based on the time you spend doing your job.

    These folks have the privilege of potentially spending less time on the job, while getting paid the same, depending on how fast they perform.

    There are privileges on both sides.

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      27 days ago

      Did you ever think maybe they agreed to the contract because they didn’t think that Goodwill would give them any more money even if they wanted it?

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        What if what if what if…

        Did you ever think maybe they took the job because it suited their needs & they didn’t want to have to fuck with a 9-5?

        Did you ever think maybe the jobs are low paying because they really aren’t that important & serve more purpose as structure than income?

        Your argument is that the job is bad because the terms are bad, but no one is twisting anyone’s arm to take the jobs.

        The jobs get taken because there are people that want that type of flexibility.

        Yes they want more money, we all want more money, but you don’t get to shit on their employment opportunities because they have different priorities than you do.

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            …but they ARE GETTING PAID THE SAME WAGE

            You work 2 hours @ $15, you get $30

            You build two widgets @ $15, you get $30

            The only difference here is for the first job you’ve agreed to a payment of $15/hour regardless of how many widgets you make & for the second job you’ve agreed to a payment of $15/widget regardless of how long it takes.

            Job A: you can dick around for 6 hours & still make $90

            Job B: if you can make 6 widgets in 15 minutes, you’ve just made $90 & you get to keep your extra 5.75 hours.

            This isn’t complicated. Nobody’s forcing these people to hit a quota, they work at their own pace & are paid accordingly.

            I’m guessing you just want to fight over something right now, so you’re intentionally being obtuse. This really is a simple concept that comes down to the workers preference.

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              Nope, I just want people to be paid for their time and not what they’re able to do within that time.

              Paying people for productivity is ultracapitalist and Protestant work ethic cruelty.

              But I guess that’s just the privileged outlook I took away from that privileged fast food job I worked.

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                If someone doesn’t want to work for 8 hours a day, can make the same money in 3 hours, by your logic… fuck ‘em? By your logic they still owe this capitalist state 5 hours of their time & you aren’t happy until they serve it?

                You can keep it.

                Equal compensation is just based on time spent pal. Equal compensation is equal regardless of whether you work slowly or quickly.

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                  Okay, then why pay people an hourly wage at all? Let’s just pay everyone on how much they are able to accomplish. The harder you work, the more you get paid.

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                    Because not all jobs are the same. People have different needs, different types of jobs offer options.

                    Stay at home partner, working from home, with multiple kids & schedules might enjoy an hourly wage position or a performance based position to account for at home needs.

                    Same may be true for someone reentering the workforce after incarceration… building usb cables at home, while studying for a certification, worked extremely well for a family member. Made a little money on the side AND had time to study.

                    Personally, I work from home writing technical manuals. I get paid hourly, rather than by document, because that’s my preference. I use my left over paid time learning this company’s platform so I can take on a bigger role.

                    That said, my coworkers are all performance based employees. They get paid based on the metric of production rather than time. Same job, same company, same department… different priorities.