• aleph
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    1 month ago

    Fair enough – “left of centre” then, if we are defining Leftist strictly as just socialist/communist.

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      1 month ago

      Why would it be “left of center” if its Capitalist, not Socialist? It would be right of center.

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        1 month ago

        Because in the centre you have neoliberalism and so on.

        If you simply define left as anti-capitalist and right as capitalist then what’s in the center?

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          Because in the centre you have neoliberalism and so on.

          Neoliberalism is firmly right-wing.

          If you simply define left as anti-capitalist and right as capitalist then what’s in the center?

          Politics in general aren’t as simple as absolute values on a line or grid, trying to nail down what “centrism” is is like trying to nail jello to a tree. Everything is in motion.

          If you truly need to describe a center, it would be a mixed economy without relying on Imperialism to subsidize safety nets. Social Democracy gets close, but ultimately leans right as it can’t break through that Socialist barrier while maintaining its status as a Social Democracy.

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            1 month ago

            I agree that the Left - Right spectrum is constantly in motion – that’s why these discussions of what constitutes what are often contentious and vary from one country to another.