It’s really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they’re only successful because, and I quote “put them all in concentration camps and killed them”

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there’s concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there’s no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It’s like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

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    The agreed term includes the destruction of a religious group. That could totally happen by forcibly converting people in education camps or by indoctrinating their children. It doesn’t have to be murder.

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        No you see the extraordinary claim is that the dastardly seeeseeepeeee would NOT do a genocide. Its totally ordinary that they would, so no evidence needed tankie smuglord

        Oh btw, i think what’s happening in Gaza is inexcusable, but letting Trump do it would be more inexcusable so vote blue or your privilege is showing sweaty maybe-later-kiddo

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      They’re building new mosques in Xinjiang as we speak, there’s footage of people in Xinjiang openly celebrating Muslim holidays in the streets in crowds way to big to credibly be called fake.

      Any harm China has done to the Muslim faith within its borders for its whole existence is 1/100000th if what Israel has done in the past month.

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      forcibly converting people in education camps

      They teach the locals mandarin, the national language of China

      by indoctrinating their children.

      They put children in schools free of charge even if their parents disagree, that’s just state mandated compulsory education.

      Suddenly you become a discount ISIS Islamic primitivist when speaking about Muslims in a historically underdeveloped region of China but I doubt you would hold the same traditionalism for muslim refugees coming to the West after being displaced by said imperial core.

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      Where is the burden of proof now? Surely you don’t think it’s on us to prove a negative. Don’t you think it’s strange that you’re just sort of supposing that it’s happening with seemingly no evidence?