Hi all!

As many of you have noticed, many Lemmy.World communities introduced a bot: @MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world. This bot was introduced because modding can be pretty tough work at times and we are all just volunteers with regular lives. It has been helpful and we would like to keep it around in one form or another.

The !news@lemmy.world mods want to give the community a chance to voice their thoughts on some potential changes to the MBFC bot. We have heard concerns that tend to fall into a few buckets. The most common concern we’ve heard is that the bot’s comment is too long. To address this, we’ve implemented a spoiler tag so that users need to click to see more information. We’ve also cut wording about donations that people argued made the bot feel like an ad.

Another common concern people have is with MBFC’s definition of “left” and “right,” which tend to be influenced by the American Overton window. Similarly, some have expressed that they feel MBFC’s process of rating reliability and credibility is opaque and/or subjective. To address this, we have discussed creating our own open source system of scoring news sources. We would essentially start with third-party ratings, including MBFC, and create an aggregate rating. We could also open a path for users to vote, so that any rating would reflect our instance’s opinions of a source. We would love to hear your thoughts on this, as well as suggestions for sources that rate news outlets’ bias, reliability, and/or credibility. Feel free to use this thread to share other constructive criticism about the bot too.

  • catloaf
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    20 days ago

    Whose decision is it, then?

    • jeffw@lemmy.worldOPM
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      20 days ago

      It’s a team decision and I am the newest mod on the team. The main developer of the bot is an admin, who ultimately would be the one to implement any changes.

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        20 days ago

        So it is in part your decision. I’m pretty sure the admins aren’t forcing you to have it here.

        • jeffw@lemmy.worldOPM
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          20 days ago

          During your next shift, you should do something that nobody on your team or your supervisor wants you to do. Lmk how that goes for you

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            19 days ago

            I’m concerned about why the team wants to force something on the users that is objectively harmful. What is the justification?

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                  18 days ago

                  Putting aside those who have stated their appreciation and those who have e DM’d as well….

                  How it is harmful?

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                    3 days ago

                    It imparts bias despite trying to clarify it.

                    It spams threads.

                    It baits users to disagree with it and earn deletes/mutes from overzealous mods, thus polluting people’s modlogs