The solarpunk tribal world is detailed here, here, and here.

I built the world because it’s what I wanted to see in the late-20th to early-21st century. But it’s weak on the question of how that came to be. So I thought some theory-experts might be able to mutual-aid me 😉

Why did this world come to be?

  • Economically: A moneyless world where labour is organised by kinship obligations and local cultures are self-sufficient for the basics.

  • Politically: Öcalan-style democratic confederalism: your local folkmoot or veche makes local decisions. They send representatives to the country-level popular assembly, they in turn send representatives to the continent-level popular assembly, and they in turn send representatives to the world-level popular assembly which does things like stops wars from escalating. Russian doll democracy.

Ok I think I’ve laid out the question well enough now: why did the economy become/remain moneyless and clannish, and why did democratic confederalism become powerful? And how can this be explained in terms of class struggle? Let me know if there’s confusion and I’ll edit.


Now, towards an answer –

  • Actually a lot of the inspiration for it all came from Mutual Aid Among the Barbarians, and less so Mutual Aid in the Mediæval City: clans living together helping each other. Comrade K mentions “The Teutons, the Celts, the Scandinavians, the Slavonians, and others”, and the chapter is largely about the Russian mir. So should I say they struggled against Roman/feudal systems and won, beating out manoralism that later became enclosure and capitalism?

  • Another thing I could use: around 1100AD in America, Hiawatha creates the Great Law of Peace and the Iroquois Confederacy with five tribes and later added a 6th… What if in the alternate history this confederated more and more tribes and became really huge? But that’s not historical materialism.

  • The first reply I ever got said, “I feel like, at first, you need to address a kind of Columbian Exchange”… but what if instead of crossing the Atlantic, they cross the Pacific?? So it’s an exchange between say Chinese societies and ones like the Tlingit.

  • I have lots of other little historical tidbits that could force to the tribal side of the dialectic: Pashtun with their jirga assemblies, Chechens as free and equal as wolves, the stateless Igbo, and many others.


Editing: ok so how is this for an IDEA: in the Middle Ages, around the time mercantilism and a bourgeoisie emerged in Terran History, the dialectic is massed into two camps. Camp A is Rome and France and manoral cultures, and Camp B is the Huns, the Turkic tribal confederacy, and various other tribal confederations. These form bigger alliances than they ever did in Terra, for the purposes of making war on the kings and lords. They win a series of wars in 1100-1600. Then they come into contact with Australia, Africa, and the Americas, there they meet tribes with a similar class structure (similar mode of production in other words). Critique that idea.

  • Dagwood222
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    Try this. There was a Black Death level plague at the start of The Industrial Revolution. A lot of small monastery-type communities end up isolated for a few decades. They manage to perfect steam engines and micro/telescopes without empire building trade.

    Another alternative. Rome creates the steam engine etc. in the Classic Age. Rome tried to keep its secrets for itself, but loved having slaves too much. Over the centuries, many people managed to escape, taking a lot of knowledge with them.

    Sounds like you might enjoy this story by Howard Waldrop. “Custer’s Last Jump” pushes the technology of WW1 back a few decades, and the Natives have airplanes they got from their Confederate allies in the US Civil War.

    https://openlibrary.org/books/OL3576465M/Custer’s_last_jump_and_other_collaborations