F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.

Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.

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    To the first point, I’d argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.

    To the second point, it has come up a few times, but yes, the reason I said “leave this on reddit” was preemptive, before the problem migrates here from reddit where the topic is rampant is insanely zealous most often.

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      I’d argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.

      I think we’d have to take a poll from the general population and compare it with a poll from an anti-circumcision group and compare it to be sure.

      Regardless, I said it was a pathway, not a guarantee.

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        I think we’d have to take a poll from the general population and compare it with a poll from an anti-circumcision group and compare it to be sure.

        My guy, please be for fucking real right now. There is a difference between an unfounded claim and an outlandish one. If I said “all of the smartest people on earth believe Poland borders Peru,” we wouldn’t need a study or poll to confirm I was full of shit, we could just reasonably deduce it. Likewise we don’t need a survey to tell us that any man who genuinely tried to bring up circumcision as tantamount in the abortion conversation would be rightly laughed out of serious consideration.

        Again, I acknowledge you aren’t wrong and I will acknowledge both abortion and circumcision exist under the same very broad umbrella of bodily autonomy, but frankly the scale and scope of the two are so wildly and enormously different as to instantly render any attempts at comparison moot.

        And honestly, I really think that you know this too. I truly believe that if you can divorce yourself from your personal investment in this topic, you will also see what an absurd comparison that is.

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          any man who genuinely tried to bring up circumcision as tantamount in the abortion conversation would be rightly laughed out of serious consideration.

          The point has sailed over your head. At no point did I say they were tantamount. I said they are relevant to each other, because they’re both problems dealing with bodily autonomy.

          but frankly the scale and scope of the two are so wildly and enormously different as to instantly render any attempts at comparison moot.

          I never said otherwise.