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    I wish I could blame this one on Trump, but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time. And, honestly, good ol’ racism has been doing its work on this one from the beginning.

    Trump only latched onto it recently, thanks to that Nazi vampire Laura Loomer

    Edit: I apologize for being unclear— Trump is a monster and obviously responsible for the spreading of this lie. I was merely trying to speak to the rumor’s provenance and was very clumsy in my speech. I’m sorry.

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      Were the Republican nazis calling in bomb threats to Springfield before trump broadcast his fake news on air?

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        Maybe? Why don’t you find out and get back to us, troublemaker. I sure know the people stirring the shit are t helping… what’s your agenda?

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          You are the one making the claim. You could at least have spent a few seconds finding out if it’s true before you wrote it. Otherwise it’s just bullshit that you have pulled out of your arse.

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            I made no claim, silly ;)

            Trump and Laura Loomer did. Point your anger where it belongs— at them

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              I wish I could blame this one on Trump, but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time.

              In case you forgot what you wrote. Hope that helps.

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                Oh, right, and you somehow think that’s wrong? That’s neonazis aren’t behind this crazy race-baiting rumor?

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                  Bloody hell, just give it up. What is “this one” referring to if not the bomb threats in the title? If it’s not trump to blame for the bomb threats starting now, then you will be able to show them happening before trump jumped on the existing neo nazi bandwagon, right?

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                    What are you even arguing about?

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      I was talking to my 90 year old grandfather recently if the political climate has ever been this bad. He responded. “No, its never been this bad. Trump is an incendiary.”

      Trump absolutely takes a lot of blame in this. He heard something he thought would benefit him and repeated it tot the masses like it was fact.

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        It was pointed out to me just recently that my comment was unclear— YES, Trump is obviously to blame here. I was trying to comment on the provenance of the claim. I apologize for my clumsiness of speech.

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      No name racists on the internet vs former (and potential future) POTUS… Yeah you’re right, it’s tough to tell who is more responsible for spreading this particular bit of misinformation.

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        That’s not what I was saying, and why would you try to create divisiveness about that? What’s wrong with you?

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            Then you are forgiven for your misunderstanding

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      Trump is to blame. When someone who half of the country blindly follows starts spewing slanderous venom, his followers will do the same. He’s been doing it for years on other random issues. They follow every time. And he knows it.

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        Yes, of course. Why does everything have to be a binary?

        I was discussing provenance, not “ultimate and solitary blame”

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          This is what you said:

          I wish I could blame this one on Trump, but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time.

          Sounds like you’re the one who made it a binary.

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            Perhaps I should have spoken more clearly then

            Edit: yeah, I see how that could be read the wrong way

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      but neo-Nazi crazies have been stoking this fire for a long time.

      Acting like Trump didn’t come in with a leaf blower and start blowing embers everywhere is just crazy to me.