Vote.

  • Vespair
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    6 hours ago

    And frankly, even if you’re literally portioning rations for the revolution you plan to start tomorrow, the idea of not taking the absolutely minute amount of time, in the grand scheme of things, that it takes to potentially positively affect change is still absurd. If this really was the revolution, then the people’s army couldn’t afford to leave strategic advantages like that on the table.

    Somebody said something to this effect once: Voting isn’t about picking which hero is going to save us; it’s about picking the kind of villain we have to fight against.

    I just don’t even understand how this is still a conversation. It’s literally not an either/or dichotomy here. All of those things you want to do to prepare for the revolution or whatever? You can still do all of them and vote. You lose absolutely nothing by voting. Zero. It’s just such a batshit mentality from the very onset.

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      5 hours ago

      After really trying to engage sincerely with a couple of these folks online the only conclusion I can reach is that they are trying to suppress the vote under the guise of being extremist left. Like you say, there’s zero rational strategy to not using or tanking your vote, and only can be defended if you claim both candidates are the same. They persist in saying that, with trash like “Revolution is necessary, electoralism cannot work.” to rationalize not voting toward the lesser of two evils.

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        5 hours ago

        Exactly this. I think there are only two people you hear saying this: the overtly bad actors trying to suppress votes or the few extremely gullible idiots who stupidly get wrapped up in the lies of former. Thankfully I think it’s usually clear before long which of the two you’re talking to and only one of them is worth your time, and they’re the rarer of them.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      All of those things you want to do to prepare for the revolution or whatever? You can still do all of them and vote.

      I mean, a few of the things I want to do to prepare for a revolution are explicitly illegal, and I don’t have enough commas in my bank account to get away with treason.

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        5 hours ago

        And this has any relevancy on voting… How? Either you’re going to the do the illegal things, which can be done on any day other than Nov 5 or you aren’t going to the do the illegal things and you can still vote on Nov 5.

        I don’t give a shit about your personal revolutionary savior cosplaying fantasy; it is entirely non-sequitur to the topic of how voting is still the reasonable choice even for the revolutionarily-motivated.

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            4 hours ago

            Your masturbatory revolutionary cosplay fantasies are still non-sequitur nonetheless.

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                3 hours ago

                Today is the day we need jokes the most.

                I know a guy who was working for the Fire Department in New York on 9/11/2001.

                He told me that when he brought a newspaper on 9/12 he was disappointed that they’d cut the comics page.

                He said it was a day he really needed to see Charlie Brown and Lucy.