Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has warned that it was “inevitable” that “war” would come to Russia after authorities there were forced to temporarily close a busy Moscow airport following an overnight drone attack on the capital.

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      Didn’t they just up the conscripts to 30 now from like 25 or 26? Basically they’re running out of able bodies. Russia thinks more bodies mean more ground but it’s not WWI and that no longer works.

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        Honestly, I am worried that Russia has already planned to either blow Zaphorzhiza to smithereens, set off a nuke somewhere in Ukraine, or both; that Ukraine and NATO both know it and NATO countries are too cowardly to act, and so Ukraine feels they need to overthrow Putin’s regime themselves before WW3 really kicks off… and if any of what I just said is right, it almost certainly will if they don’t.

        Russia running out of victims to throw in the meat grinder makes it all the more possible, and that should worry everyone.

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          The Kremlin isn’t going to commit suicide by using nukes because of a failed land grab in Eastern Europe. Stop fear mongering.

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          Uhhhh…

          if Russia throws nukes in Ukraine the war in Ukraine will end in a month. All of Europe will be in Ukraine and kill anything moving with a Z on it in weeks. There’s no WWIII. There’s a Ukraine war and it will go much worse for russia if they nuke even an empty field.

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            Sounds like a good reason for Ukraine to invade Moscow and drag Putin to the Hague then.

            Actually I worry this is all a moot point anyway because the Russians really did rig the Zaphorzhiza plant to blow, meaning a nuclear conflict is probably going to be an inevitable conclusion to the whole thing regardless.

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          I am worried that Russia has already planned to either blow Zaphorzhiza to smithereens, set off a nuke somewhere in Ukraine, or both; that Ukraine and NATO both know it and NATO countries are too cowardly to act

          You are worried about conspiracy in your own head?

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            There were reports a month ago stating Russian troops rigged some of the cooling ponds inside the plant with explosives, so… yeah. The pro-Russia concern trolls in here trying to drum this drone attack up as an excuse to undermine Ukraine when they don’t want anyone to acknowledge that Putin’s actions on the nuclear front literally justify doing anything, up to and including the sane atrocities he inflicted on Ukraine if not more, simply to get rid of him and prevent a nuclear disaster.

            It’s like those trolls simply do not get it’s not just about Ukraine but quite literally life on the Earth.

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      It would increase the amount of soldiers on the battlefield about ten times and Ukraine would be completely fucked

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          Can you spend at least a minute researching before making claims like that? Russia has like what, 300k soldiers on the field right now? There are 20 million people eligible for service. The whole reason Russia is not using those is that the majority of them are against war and would mutiny when called to it. But if Ukraine keeps poking, they might turn them against themselves.

          Make no mistake, Ukraine cannot possibly “win” this war, e.g. conquer Moscow, without foreign military intervention. Not with HIMARS nor with F16’s, nor with superior guns and training. They’re just *severely *outnumbered. Oh, and by the way, Russia has nukes, which is a bit of a problem. The best they can hope for is to push Russians back to 2014 borders after Crimean annexation, but not a bit more.

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            Raw numbers do not a fighting force make. You said it yourself “the majority of them are against war and would mutiny when called to it”. If Russia had the manpower to field 10x the troops they have now, they wouldn’t have to keep loosening the restrictions on conscripts.

            Who the fuck ever said anything about conquering Moscow? Ukraine winning means making Putin stop being a cunt and trying to take over Kiev.

            Nukes are completely irrelevant to troop counts.

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              If Russia had the manpower to field 10x the troops they have now, they wouldn’t have to keep loosening the restrictions on conscripts

              How is it related? The conscription law is an entirely different thing, it does not affect the amount of people eligible to serve

              Who the fuck ever said anything about conquering Moscow?

              Look above, the post that we are discussing right now is about Zelensky threating to take war to the Russian soil

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                How is the ability to field troops related to the ability to field troops? Really? Having X million people eligible to serve doesn’t matter if none of them are willing to go die in another country (remember your comment about a mutiny?); and right now Russia is having trouble recruiting for Putin’s little adventure.

                “Take the war to Russian soil” doesn’t mean conquer Moscow. For fuck’s sake, that has never been Zelenzky’s goal and you know it.

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                  Because it’s not about the ability to field troops. They’ve increased the age of conscription to 30 years, but you don’t send conscripts to war, you send ones who completed the year-long service, and the age limit for those was always 50 years. We won’t see any new conscripts under this law for at least 2 years. But there won’t be that much of them really, because this change was designed to catch those who are otherwise healthy but avoided service altogether by getting a PhD.

                  “Take the war to Russian soil” doesn’t mean conquer Moscow. For fuck’s sake, that has never been Zelenzky’s goal and you know it

                  Then what *does *it mean? Why would you go to Russia if not for returning the attack? Why would you fly drones all the way to Moscow?

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                    It would increase the amount of soldiers on the battlefield about ten times

                    Sure sounds like it’s about getting troops to the field.

                    It means exactly what this was, drone attacks on strategic targets to disrupt the Russian war machine. Only one side in this war is trying to invade a neighboring country. If you can’t even admit that, I really question your motivation here.