Lots of good information. Explains many of our current issues

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    1 year ago

    Can you take the CIA propaganda back to Reddit please?

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      1 year ago

      “everything I don’t like is CIA propaganda: a child’s guide to political discussion”

      And yes, he has been running interference for Putin and used to run interference for the fucking Khmer Rouge. I don’t need his opinion like I don’t need Henry Kissingers. Although at least Kissinger would know what he is talking about, as a very competent ghoul.

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        1 year ago

        I’m a skeptical and distrustful person by nature and not afraid to kill my heros because of this. So, when I started seeing this stuff circulating on reddit, I checked it out.

        I go into detail as to why I believe what I do in my other responses to this comment and cite my sources. If you want to make an actual argument instead of name calling feel free to make one there.

        Thanks.

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          Dude the man is so anti American that he was willing to enthusiastically enforce Khmer Rouge propaganda. He’s just the lefty mirror to Henry Kissinger, except ignorant and less evil.

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              had significantly more nuanced arguments

              Nuanced arguments about how the West must be lying about the genocide in Cambodia.

              Dude, I am okay with people generally critical of the West. Especially within the context of the Cold War. Chomsky goes beyond that. His initial assumption is that everything the West is doing is bad.

              That means his thoughts aren’t useful or insightful. They don’t change based on the situation. It’s just a better sounding version of your typical anti-west screed from anyone ranging from edgy 14 year old Marxists trying to piss off their parents or some aging hippie.

              And it isn’t propaganda, it’s what he wrote, praising the regime of brutal murderers and discarding the accounts of survivors and escapees as propaganda.

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                That’s the first sentence in the second paragraph. Did you read the rest?

                Can you show me what Chomsky wrote that you mentioned?

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      1 year ago

      Can you take the CIA propaganda commie shit back to reddit Lemmygrad please?

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        I researched this propaganda when I started seeing it on reddit.

        Have you or are you just a reddit echo?

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          Yes I have not only researched things said about Chomsky, I’ve read his books.

          Chomsky is absolutely a genocide apologist. He also is an apologist for the Russian invasion of Ukraine

          https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1496477076571967495?t=-NNeiILslEjE8Zuz9IxLbA&s=19

          He has the political/economic mind of a 14 year old edgelord. He’s not an expert at all (in these subjects. He is a fantastic linguist) - he’s just a minor commie celebrity

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            The audio cuts out in your video. Maybe because I don’t have a twitter account?

            That said I have read the Ukraine scientists argument against Chomsky’s ‘position’ (most of it is a strawman) as well as Chomsky’s response.

            https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/the-ukraine-war-chomsky-responds/

            I’ve also read several of his books and his response to the genocide denial claims.

            Here’s a post with some excellent comments on the topic.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/rv16ie/what_did_chomsky_actually_said_about_bosnia/

            Both claims against Chomsky reek of CIA/neo-liberal propaganda, imo.

            As to your comments seeking to discredit Chomsky’s expertise in this area, he’s an intellectual who has been following, protesting, and speaking out against Western Imperialism since the Vietnam war.

            Neo-Liberalism (the Democrats) and Fascism (the modern GOP) aren’t the only choices and being critical of neo-liberalism =~ tankie or Russian apologist.

            That’s CIA propaganda and I’m sorry to see it follow posters from reddit.

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              I’m sure that smart people existing here does make commies sad

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                This is really your best counter argument to everything I posted? Trolling?