When I first started this show I found it to be a really awkward mix of comedy and seriousness. It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times as some kind of comic relief from a really serious situation. Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough or maybe the show just grew on me, but by season 2 I found myself loving this show.
To me it seems as every bit as comfy, intellectually interesting and even funny as some classic Star Treks while still clearly being its own thing. I wish more comfy space shows like this would get made.
What are your thoughts on The Orville? Also I miss Alara.
It was a breath of fresh air after the disappointment of Discovery and proof that there are people who still believe in Star Trek’s optimistic vision of the future. I think for that reason I and many other fans gave it a pass for a lot of it’s flaws.
My biggest problem is that I feel the social commentary is rather poorly done. I’ve gotten into some nasty fights on reddit for saying so.
I’ll start by saying what I think it does well. It’s good at humanizing people who live in an oppressive society and portraying their point of view.
But the ideas it discusses aren’t especially original or insightful. The world building doesn’t exist to support them. The Moclans might be a fine allegory for trans and intersex issues, but they only work as an allegory and make no sense at face value. And they’re portrayed inconsistently to allow whatever kind of episodes the writers want.
I feel like one issue is that McFarlane does not share the ideals of Star Trek. I don’t get the impression that he sees the value of non-interference, for example. But nevertheless, the Union believes in it because the Federation does. Politically, he’s a more conventional thinker than the classic Star Trek writers.
I really agree with you. The story line are often way too literal and and not novel.
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Don’t watch stargate then! Star Trek is all like no we can’t interfere, the prime directive, oh no, we can’t share our technology! Then Stargate rolls in, tells the primitive locals their gods are fake, by the way check out these automatic machine guns, want one? lol
I’m not necessarily saying that I agree with the ideals of Trek, just that they’re something that the Orville writers are trying to imitate. When it comes to politics and social commentary, they’re not as deep thinkers as some of the writers of classic Trek.
I enjoyed Stargate in highschool. It has to be acknowledged that Earth in that show is in a completely different position than the Federation/Union, so it’s not really a good comparison.