ideology is a hell of a drug

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    Did I miss someone trying to spread info in this thread? All i got from you was pig poop, but sure pretend you had something to say I don’t mind

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      Bruh, they tried to spread info to you by recommending State and Revolution, and without even reading the first 2 sentences on the Wikipedia article you discarded it as nationalism!

      That wasn’t just judging a book by it’s cover, it’s judging a book by it’s title. If anything, the line of argument that a janitor in the US, a janitor in China, a janitor in Russia and Ukraine have more in common with each other than the billionaires of their respective countries is A: correct, and B: it’s probably the least nationalist thing you could say. That other person there, who shares no language, nationality, race or culture as you is closer to you than someone who shares all of those traits with you buy owns several mega yachts. That sounds like nationalism to you?

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        As a matter of fact it wasn’t clear that was supposed to be a book! Sounded more like a slogan but you know, let’s all rush to judgement yeah?

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          Just to be clear, are you saying that you thought “State and Revolution” was a slogan like “Blood and Soil” or “Liberty, Equality, Fraternity”? That would be a very unusual reaction but I’m not asking as a point of judgement.

          Anyway, it’s Lenin’s most famous work and you can find it for free very easily online including as text here and as an audiobook here.

          Personally, I think the best introductory work for someone who doesn’t have the patience for The Principles of Communism (and I don’t have that patience myself) is Engels’ Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, here as text and here as an excellent audiobook.

          Let me know if there’s anything that I can do to help.

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            Yes, that’s what I thought lol. In my defense, posting in here led to my inbox blowing up so I didn’t spend much time thinking about it.

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              it’s generally a good idea to Google something you suspect is a slogan as it’s frequently some fascist BS. that would have pulled up the work for free from a number of places. I assumed you had done that and were calling Lenin a nationalist.

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              I respect you admitting as much but I also whole-heartedly recommend that you give the book a read, or even Stalin’s book ‘Dialectical and Historical Materialism’ if you’re looking for something shorter… I was very much like you once and reading books like these helped me understand a lot of things.